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From a halachic perspective, why is a teacher allowed to take things away from a student like a cell phone? Why isn’t this geneivah?
There is an implicit contractual agreement between the parties that in return for the school accepting the student it has certain rights. This is one of them.
Also, see this pretty recent discussion of this issue:
A teacher works within the framework of a Beis Din and anything a Beis Din makes owner-less becomes that (Otherwise called hefker Beis Din hefker)
Oh please. Hefker Svaros Hefker.
The idea is very simple. If you want to stay give me your cell phone.
Haleivi,
I think Syag was right
I WAS JOKING!!!
R. Michel Steinmetz paskens that if the item isn’t of great value then Yeshvia can keep it; if it’s of value they must return it, although they can return it at the end of the year or to a parent.
I would say that a student has a responsibility to learn in class. A cellphone would obviously interfere with that. If the school has a no-phone policy, then the rebbe/teacher should take it away. They can make an attempt to give it back to the student but if they find the same student with the phone on another occasion, then I would say take it away and only give it back to the parents, who have to be made to agree not to allow the student to bring it to school. If a person cannot handle something responsibly, then they should not be allowed to have it.
“If a person cannot handle something responsibly, then they should not be allowed to have it.”
Sounds like the belief system of the democratic party in our country.
coffee – I was right about something?!? I don’t even see a post of mine here.
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