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    ubiquitin
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    Thanks DY!

    #1926106
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Ubiquitin, you’re welcome.

    Reb Eliezer, I don’t think so. I think the reason to continue to say ותן טל ומטר is based on him following the צבור in א”י since he is considered a בן א”י (see בה”ט and שערי תשובה).

    #2032230
    ubiquitin
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    oh
    ha

    Never mind It was on page 2
    I feel silly

    I guess Ive done sillier things than thank twice

    #2032225
    ubiquitin
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    The daf * reminded me of this thread

    DY
    Thanks for the mareh makom last year. I saw it and appreciated then I thought I replied

    (* and date Nov 22 which is the date mentioned in the Beis Yosef as the start day (not date as the start was the previous night) of Vesein tal umatar, however this date is not today obviously, as we do not start vesein tal umatar today)

    #2032300

    There is a fascinating discussion there about rain being on par with giving of Torah, etc. I think what Gemorah is saying that natural sustenance that Hashem provides is no less miraculous than big events, and we need to pay attention and be grateful and study them. Appropriately, this is followed by a scientific discussion where the rain is being formed.

    #2032631
    Reb Eliezer
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    It says קשה פרנסתו של אדם כקריעת ים סוף, the support is a daily miracle just as the splitting of the sea. The support is like rain a revival as עני חשוב כמת a poor person is considered like not being alive. The Jews were revived at kabolas hatorah. The second bracha of shemonei esrei reflects this as explained by the Tur through the acronym מפתח – מטר, פרנסה, תחיה, חיה. Rain revives plantations where the seeds are first destroyed. Support mentioned above. Resurrection is obvious and by giving birth.

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