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    Reb Eliezer

    In the News: https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/2037910/bias-in-the-skies-frum-couple-kicked-off-flight-for-refusing-to-place-tallis-bag-on-floor.html

    I don’t think there is an issur even for tefillin being tik betoch tick, one bag in an other. I am right?

    Shimon Nodel

    On the floor, maybe it’s ok. To put it underneath a seat is probably more of a problem

    Shimon Nodel

    Careful, AA lawyers are scrutinizing this thread

    ☕️coffee addict

    Can you put it where your feet are?


    Just put in overhead


    On your shoulders?
    In your suitcase?


    rebytd613: did you read the story? it was in the overhead compartment and the airline employee took lt out from there.


    Here’s a scenario: you have your Tfillin in your hand luggage. Isn’t the bag on the floor until you get on the plane???

    Reb Eliezer

    lower, obviously the room was required for something else.


    If the person was not an experience airline traveler, they may not have understood the implications of having tefilin as part of carry-on luggage, e.g. knowing you can’t hold something (for fear of it flying off and hitting someone during landing and take-off, which are the parts of the flight most prone to problems).


    FWIW, when I travel, I have my backpack (filled with my camera gear) as my carry-on. I also have an under-seater in which I carry (among other things) my tallis and tefillin.

    The Wolf


    Had the issue when I was a בחור. Did not have room in my carryon, figured Id have my טלית and תפילין as a personal item. Stewardess came along, the flight was fully booked, and they needed every bit of space in the overhead compartment. Tried putting it on my lap, was told it had to go under the seat for safety reasons.
    So I out it under the seat in front of me. Wasnt comfortable doing it, but understood that a) the תפלין weren’t directly on the floor b) Hadnt placed it there ti be disrespectful, but in order to place them in an appropriate place. c) that I’d tried to place a personal items in the overhead compartment that is really for carry on luggage.
    Since then I’d always leave room in my carryon for my טלית and תפילין.


    > If the person was not an experience airline traveler,

    Right, first time on the plane and is ready to sue!

    I actually once was sitting near a middle-aged lady who was first time on the plane, boarding in Philly. She was calling a friend (who possibly never was yet?!) and musing about what she sees and snapping pictures of everything around.

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