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    lyb
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    According to the Shulchan Aruch HaRav a person is yotzai talmud Torah only if he says the words out loud. An exception to this is if you need to think about the idea or if someone else is speaking Torah to you which it then becomes Shomaya K’Oneh. Does this apply to Torah tapes,Mp3,etc…. And if not, what is it considered if you listen to a Mp3, another prat of the mitzvah?

    #1071012
    Wisey
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    Acc to the Shulchan Aruch Harav there are two mitzvos; limud torah and yidiass hatorah. Even if there is no limud here, the listening probably generates yidiass hatorah. For non-chabad chassidim I don’t think this requirement of shomeah kioneh is followed so much or else this extremely-relevant-to-daily-living- din would be very famous and people would announce before shiurim to michaven lotzes.

    (I don’t know why the requirement of mitzvos tzrichos kavanah doesn’t apply to talmud torah especially since it is a mitzvah dioraysah. Why doesn’t everyone have to first think that I am now fulfilling the mitzvah…. before every torah related discussion. It may be because the source for MTK from aseh lishem poalam does not apply to talmud torah as the Nefesh Hachaim discusses.

    #1071013
    Chortkov
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    mitzvos tzrichos kavanah doesn’t apply to talmud torah especially since it is a mitzvah dioraysah

    According to R’ Avraham Min Hahar, you can taineh ??? ????, like ???.

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    Chortkov
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    #1071015
    oyyoyyoy
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    yekke2 cool tayna but i think thats theres a difference. dont know if by nedarim u have to say theres always hanaah by divrei torah, just that cuz hanaah is part of the nitnu it breaks lav lehonos nitnu. its hard to say every time you learn you have haanah.

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