Tear Down the Wall between Egypt and Gaza

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  • #2246704
    yechiell
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    Since the wall between Egypt and Gaza was not built by Trump, and paid for by Mexico, it is a real, solid wall.
    Tear it down ! And let all the Gazans flood Egypt with millions of refugees.
    Why not? They are doing it in America ! Migrants from Mexico flood our cities !
    Let Israel destroy the border between Gaza and Egypt, and, voila, a major problem solved

    #2246760
    sensibleyid
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    the wall was a good until Hamas took control of it. instead of keeping terrorists out it only allows terrorists in and out. did you know that Hamas leaders have been in and out of gaza several times in the past months.

    #2246773
    akuperma
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    Facilitating access to Gaza from Egypt would facilitate terrorist movement and facilitate the importation of weapons. Also remember that many if not most Egyptians tend to support their fellow Muslims in Gaza. — And trying to expel the Gazans to Egypt is very problematic since while Palestinians are basically the same ethnically as the Arabs in Lebanon, Syria and Jordan (excluding the Bedouin elite who rule Jordan), the Egyptians are very different in terms of ethnicity, race and culture.

    #2246842
    yechiell
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    akuperm – “the Egyptians are very different in terms of ethnicity, race and culture.”
    so what? the hordes coming into america are all white anglo-saxons?

    #2247086
    akuperma
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    Ever since the 17th century, America has a pro-immigration tradition that few other countries share. Palestinians in Egypt would look and sound like foreigners, and the Egyptians would not like that – remember that Egypt made a point of not annexing Gaza when they had a choice.

    America has long accepted “huddled masses, yearning to be free” (which is the case of those trying to come in now), and indeed, in the last presidential election neither party nominated a candidate who ancestors were living in the United States at the time of the Revolution (something that never happened before); in fact in America, most of the “nativists” are themselves descendants of recent immigrants.

    #2247140
    ☕️coffee addict
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    “Ever since the 17th century, America has a pro-immigration tradition that few other countries share“

    Except during WWII

    #2247151
    Amil Zola
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    In 1790 nativist policies were advocated for by the Federalist party. Then there was the Chinese Exclusion Act. From about 1840 to WW 2 German Americans became the target. Certainly these laws aren’t pro immigration by a long shot.

    #2247282
    Kuvult
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    Coffee Addict,
    Almost all countries close their borders during wartime. You certainly can’t fault America for it. The massive immigration of Eastern European Jews took place 1880-1920 EXCEPT during WWI.

    #2247297
    akuperma
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    1. Most American are descended from immigrants, including almost all frum Jews.
    2. The above fact shows that the pro-immigration parties were successful, and the nativists lost, and it turns out the prosperity of the country is largely due to immigrants.
    3. Jews opposed to non-admission of non-WASP immigrants look silly, since they are arguing that our ancestors should not have been allowed in

    #2247372
    mdd1
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    Kuvult, the mass immigration of Jews had been restricted from 1924 on.

    #2247425
    Kuvult
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    I know that. I was responding to coffee Addict saying about immigration “except during WWII” that during war closing borders is normal, to be expected, & not something you can blame a country for doing. My point was before 1924 even with no (barely any) restrictions on immigration the doors were closed during WWI.

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