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    dafyomi2711
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    Do you say Tefilas Haderech from Brooklyn to Lakewood if you very rarely travel that distance?

    #1000236
    popa_bar_abba
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    Yes, unless it is from brooklyn to lakewood

    #1000237
    nishtdayngesheft
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    Why would rarely travelling that route be any reason not to say Tefilas Haderech?

    #1000238
    Sam2
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    Probably. The best Eitzah in any Safek about Tfilas HaDerech is to say it in Shma Koleinu during Shacharis.

    #1000239
    akuperma
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    Do you say Tefilas Haderech between Washington and Boston, since you have to pass through an uninhabited area, and the area is almost 100% built-up in the middle. The trees you see along side the highways are there to hide the fact (and the noise) that there are houses immediately on the other side.

    #1000240
    popa_bar_abba
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    Do you say Tefilas Haderech between Washington and Boston, since you have to pass through an uninhabited area, and the area is almost 100% built-up in the middle.

    It isn’t built up by a long shot. Look at google maps

    #1000241
    dafyomi2711
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    nisht bec someone who travels it everyday certainty doesn’t have to say it!

    #1000242
    Sam2
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    dafyomi: Why do you assume that?

    #1000243
    nishtdayngesheft
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    Dafyomi,

    And someone who eats bread every day does not have to make a brocho on bread? Or, why should someone have to say asher yatzar everyday?

    #1000244
    akuperma
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    If you hold that the barrier surrounding I-95 counts as being a rural (outside the city) area with no habitations, you’ll have an oportunity, but we normally don’t hold that a park that is built by design qualifies (i.e. you don’t say Tefilas ha-Derekh when passing through Central Park), and you could argue that the barrier surrounding the highway to protect the local houses should be treated similarly. If so, it is unclear where exactly the northeast “megalopolis” pauses enough to allow for Tefilas ha-Derekh. For all purposes, the Washington-Boston corridor is a gigantic city. The issue is how you extrapolate from a definition designed for an era where people often walked or went a ox-carts in an area in which cities were well definied and surrounded by farmland. If you look out the window on a train you will be hard put to find the uninhabited farmland that categorizes the space between a city that sets up the need to say Tefilas ha-Derekh.

    #1000245
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Look on google maps. Try looking on 95 near West Greenwich, CT.

    #1000246
    dafyomi2711
    Member

    so do most people say it or no what is the consensus ?

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