December 1, 2021 11:58 pm at 11:58 pm #2036929
Mi kamocha yisroel. CNBC just came out with its annual list of the most expensive cities in the world for 2021. Who would have thunk (aka thought) that yidden would come in No. 1. TA topped the worldwide cost of living index for the first time ever (it was in fifth place in 2020). It appears that TA spiked in the rankings mainly because the of the rapid NIS rise relative to the USD as EY emerged from the Covid slowdown much faster than any other industrialized nations. The rankings were as follows:
1. Tel Aviv, Israel
2. Paris, France
4. Zurich, Switzerland
5. Hong Kong, China
6. New York, U.S.
7. Geneva, Switzerland
8. Copenhagen, Denmark
9. Los Angeles, U.S.
10. Osaka, JapanDecember 2, 2021 9:08 am at 9:08 am #2037046
Yes and to add to that. Acording to numbeo
The average person in tel a viv will spend 6000 shekels on rent
Out of 8000 shekels he gets paidDecember 2, 2021 9:11 am at 9:11 am #2037065
And jerusalem is the same as new york (numbeo)December 2, 2021 9:17 am at 9:17 am #2037100akupermaParticipant
Yidden in Tel Aviv? Last time I heard, it is most famous for the sorts of things we can’t discuss on YWN.December 2, 2021 9:31 am at 9:31 am #2037140
Akuperma: In all fairness, there is more to Tel Aviv than a pritzusdike parade, treife chulent and coffee shops serving grande mocha lattes w chlov stam.December 2, 2021 11:50 am at 11:50 am #2037167akupermaParticipant
Gadolhadorah: Yes, but most of those things that make Tel Aviv famous are not things we can discuss in publicDecember 2, 2021 12:55 pm at 12:55 pm #2037210
Its got nothing to do with tel a viv, its israel as a whole
I have to admit that tel a viv is slightly more expensive than
Other cities such as bnei brak, modil illit, ashdod,
arad. But only tiny such as 500 to 700 diference
Its the whole israel which is the most expensive in the worldDecember 2, 2021 11:24 pm at 11:24 pm #2037557
Maybe this is what is meant by ey increasing bzman moshiach: price of real estateDecember 4, 2021 10:05 pm at 10:05 pm #2037921Yabia OmerParticipant
Tel Aviv is still holier than Brooklyn, or wherever akuperma lives.December 5, 2021 3:25 am at 3:25 am #2037988
“Tel Aviv is still holier than Brooklyn, or wherever akuperma lives”.
Th kedushah of a “place” is no greater or less than the kedushah of those who live there.
For all you know there may be a minyan of the lamud vov tzadikim living along Diezengorf–enough (at least for Avraham Avinu ) to keep the Ebeshter from considering some really tough love.December 5, 2021 3:28 am at 3:28 am #2037989AviraDeArahParticipant
Yabia, the land underneath it is holier and therefore much more disgraced and defiled than any other land in the worldDecember 5, 2021 3:31 am at 3:31 am #2038003
YO -“Tel Aviv is still holier than Brooklyn, or wherever akuperma lives.”
That’s the land, not the people!December 5, 2021 3:32 am at 3:32 am #2038005
Romain -“Its the whole israel which is the most expensive in the world”
That’s because they have a they worselleess Sequel and @ Regular consumer Spending!December 5, 2021 9:25 am at 9:25 am #2038080hujuParticipant
To akuperma: There is clearly something wrong with what you listen to. I know a lot about Tel Aviv (visited 3 or more times), and I don’t know anything I could not talk about on YWN. E.g., there is a shop that sells Golda Meir’s personal blend of coffee. It is delicious. Wish they would export it to the US. E.g. 2: It is where Israel declared its independence in 1947. Visit the room where it happened, then watch a recording of the event.December 5, 2021 12:52 pm at 12:52 pm #2038127
“That’s because they have a they worselleess Sequel and @ Regular consumer Spending!”
My post didn’t come out right.
That’s because they have a worthless Shequel (Israeli money), etc.December 5, 2021 8:29 pm at 8:29 pm #2038237BY1212Participant
I’m gonna assume the mi k’amcha reaction to this news is sarcastic. Cause otherwise it betrays a really warped sense of what amcha yisroel is about.December 5, 2021 10:11 pm at 10:11 pm #2038293KGNParticipant
Tel Aviv has the potential for holiness, but if someone from Tel Aviv became Observant, he’d likely move elsewhere.
Tel Aviv isn’t the historically famous Paris, but it might be expensive because it’s safer than what Paris is today.December 5, 2021 11:55 pm at 11:55 pm #2038336
“but if someone from Tel Aviv became Observant, he’d likely move elsewhere..”
There are literally tens of thousands of frum yidden living in Tel Aviv, although no where near the frum percentages in Yerushalayim, BB, etc. However, Tel Aviv does have the highest per capita population of vegans in the world and without a doubt, the BEST veggie tofu anywhere in EY, or the world for that matter. There are hordes of bochurim coming to Tel Aviv on Thrusday evening from nearby yeshivos in Bnai Brak for their tofu-fix.December 6, 2021 6:29 pm at 6:29 pm #2038667
to everyone here that is responding: you. missed. the. point. is tel aviv holy? yeeees. is what goes on there holy? noooooooo. and to gadolhadorah: yeah, currently, brooklyn IS a better place to beDecember 8, 2021 8:24 am at 8:24 am #2039353takahmamashParticipant
“currently, brooklyn IS a better place to be”
There is no mitzvah to live in Brooklyn anywhere in Tanach. I know you New Yorkers won’t believe it, but E”Y is “in town,” and everywhere else is not, at least according to the Torah.December 8, 2021 1:34 pm at 1:34 pm #2039532n0mesorahParticipant
There used to be a very interesting group of war survivors. They were known as The Holy Jews Of Tel Aviv.December 8, 2021 10:37 pm at 10:37 pm #2039698
takahmamash: you miss undrestood:) brooklyn in SPECIFIC is not the best in the world, but i think everyone would agree that in the ruchniyus aspect it IS better than tel aviv. oh, and im very much aware that E”Y is the center of the hock😉December 8, 2021 11:32 pm at 11:32 pm #2039800
“…everyone would agree that in the ruchniyus aspect [Brooklyn] IS better than tel aviv..”
The baal kabalah, R’ YL Ashlag (aka the Ba’al Hasulam) asked the rhetorical question as to “what’s the difference between gashmius and ruchniyus. Gashmius, he answered “everyone wants, but once you have it, there is no feeling of fulfillment”. Ruchniyus, on the other hand he noted, “nobody wants, but when you have it, there is such a deep feeling of fulfillment!” For some yidden in EY, Tel Aviv may offer BOTH to a greater extent than might BP or Willy to yidden in chutz la’aretz.December 9, 2021 5:09 pm at 5:09 pm #2040028
gadolhodorah: on this I have to be maskim. there are some people that are able to combine the two. I still think that its hard and i personally wouldn’t risk it. if you want to raise frum kids in E”Y that RBS is probably a safer option. but if u can combine the two, kol hakavod!December 9, 2021 9:19 pm at 9:19 pm #2040045
> Gashmius, he answered “everyone wants, but once you have it, there is no feeling of fulfillment
indeed. R Twersky heard that one of his former patients found a large sum of money and returned to the owner. He called the guy and asked how he feels about this. The guy answered: when I used to get high, I felt good for a day. Now it is 6 months after I returned the money, and I still feel good about it.December 9, 2021 9:20 pm at 9:20 pm #2040046
the way it was explained to me by A Chassidic Rav: EY has kedusha on its own, other places do not. So, in EY, you benefit from it but also may get in trouble. Chutz – you need to make an effort to create your own kedusha. I am sure, for many people, Brooklyn made this hishatdlus.
In American polity, NYC is an island of arrivals from abroad that eventually learn/earn enough to move to the continent itself.December 10, 2021 2:17 pm at 2:17 pm #2040301
AAQ…..very well said.
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