August 16, 2017 12:23 am at 12:23 am #1339797
Dear President Trump,
Thank you for standing up for what’s right.
(I so day, even though you were my absolute last choice [17 of 17] in the primary.)
Your enemies consistently have underrated and underestimated you. From the day you announced your candidacy until the primary. Every day of the primaries. From the time you won the nomination though Election Day. On Election Day. From the day after the election through the inauguration. And from when you assumed office until today.
(Not to say you are perfect or faultless. Far from it. But you are far far better than your political enemies, which includes virtually all Democrats. I admittedly still think there are more suitable Republicans than you.)
The Orthodox Jewish community, which on Election Day official voter data shows shone out as a bright strong red in a sea of surrounding blue, today stands firmly behind you. Keep strong as the Democrats and the mainstream media continue what will be their never-ending attempts to bring you down with their false impeachment attempts and other insidious efforts to undermine your presidency and to undermine the United States of America that you lead.
So far, so good. Please keep it up. (This letter isn’t an endorsement of whatever you do in the future.)August 16, 2017 12:38 pm at 12:38 pm #1340596
“The Orthodox Jewish community…stands firmly behind you.”
Please speak for yourself. While I know of many who deluded themselves into thinking Trump would be different once elected, or felt that even with his baggage he was better than the aternative, I have not met a single person who stands behind (let alone “firmly behind” ) a person who would describe any Neo nazi as a “very fine person” These are people that Hillary rightly called a “basket of deplorables” those who call deplorables “fine people” are themselves deplorableAugust 16, 2017 2:55 pm at 2:55 pm #1340471mechitzaParticipant
Dear Half Sour Pickle:
Thank you for being an integral part of my hamburger sandwich. You may not be my first choice of a cold, crunchy addition to my burger (cole slaw and relish are far superior), but nonetheless, you’re not too bad. You shine brightly as a green slice of goodness surrounded by brown and red mush.
Please know, though you really don’t care what I think and I am actually an idiot who thinks that other people care about what I have say on the matter, that you are doing a great job. Keep it up.August 16, 2017 4:17 pm at 4:17 pm #1340666
Trump is the only modern US President who speaks the truth. He doesn’t back down despite the naysayers (for example, he has millions of CEOs that are willing to join his councils, but he doesn’t need them).
He knows that the Nazis are good people and wishes that Hitler have a statute. Hitler and the Nazi party should not be considered anti-Semites. After all, not only Jews were killed in the Holocaust and Jews shouldn’t be singled out on Holocaust Remembrance Day.
President Trump also doesn’t think a U.S. president should visit the Warsaw memorial when visiting Poland. After all, if Ivanka was able to take his place at the G-20 Summit, why can’t a first daughter go to the memorial? A president should not be taking sides!
For example, Trump realizes that Yad Vashem is just an amazing place to visit, but he wouldn’t condemn the Nazi perpetrators because he understands that a President has to have all of the facts before making such a statement (except when it involves an Islamic incident, of course).
Trump is the least anti-Semitic, homophobic, racist and sexist person that you’ve ever seen in your entire life. Trump said so himself (and he NEVER lies)!August 16, 2017 4:17 pm at 4:17 pm #1340657yytzParticipant
Thank you, Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz, for being 100 times more reasonable than our President. See their recent twitter feeds. Orthodox Jewish conservative media personality Ben Schapiro — thank you as well for being a conservative voice of reason, even though you’ve been the target of so much anti-Semitism.
I would thank Trump for his nice statement denouncing the Klan, neo-Nazis and white nationalists, but the problem is that his statements before and after that statement have made him look like an alt-right white-supremacist-sympathizer.
The fact is, the Unite the Right rally was organized 100% by radical anti-Semitic, racist far-right extremist groups. It wasn’t organized by any “fine people” who are simply concerned about tearing down monuments because of a concern that it could lead to taking down monuments to slave-holding founding fathers like Jefferson.
By strongly implying that most people there were fine people, Trump is giving legitimacy to racists and anti-Semites, and everybody knows it.
The radical left is a real threat, but only far-rightists are likely to commit hate crimes or terrorism against us. We need to be very careful that people in power (like the President!) are not legitimizing them, and helping them recruit more people into their hateful ideologies. Rachmana litzlan.August 16, 2017 4:33 pm at 4:33 pm #1340745
I don’t think we have to worry about our president supporting hate groups. He seems as self-involved and ignorant as ever.August 16, 2017 4:53 pm at 4:53 pm #1340787akupermaParticipant
1. Trump would do better with a bit of “derekh eretz”. But then again, he’s a reality show star and that’s not to be expected. Given that the “resistance” and “fake news media” (some of which YWN routinely aggregates from, it seems that in the USA, derekh eretz in public life has gone the way of typewriters, ice boxes and phones with dials.
2. Many of his policies may not be in our communities’ interests, though at least they aren’t as harmful as the increasingly fanatical secularism in the Democratic party. Plus, be definition, we are “deplorable” (clinging to religion and all that), and Trump is the last hope of the deplorables in the factg of a left-wing movement that would openly persecute us.August 16, 2017 9:04 pm at 9:04 pm #1340873
YYTZ -“but only far-rightists are likely to commit hate crimes or terrorism against us”
You sound like a liberal Jew, maybe you are?!?
We are in this world to keep the Torah; we aren’t that much interested in people threating to kill us.
That’s one thing the US has – is laws against Hate crimes, with punishment.
The left libs, for 30 years, have waged war against Torah values. This has brought very liberal laws in this country!
This should be the most concern for jews.August 16, 2017 11:02 pm at 11:02 pm #1340898akupermaParticipant
Re: but only far-rightists are likely to commit hate crimes or terrorism against us”
Actually the “left” is often involved only the authorities treat these as “normal ” crime, ignoring that the anti-Jewish attitudes that encourage them. And the Muslims are now considered “left” but anyone who object to their attacks on Jews is an “Islamaphobe.”
And if you work outside the Jewish community, you’ll discover that it isn’t the Christians who object to accommodating our religious practices, but the ultra-secular liberals (often Jews).August 16, 2017 11:02 pm at 11:02 pm #1340897GadolhadorahParticipant
After 7 months of this self-absorbed moron in the WH, the fact that there are still more than a few yidden defending the Trumpkopf in Chief is beyond belief. While Ivanka unfortunately cannot disown her father, the fact that the Yidden in the cabinet ( especially Mnuchin and Cohen) have not spoken out is tragic. About an hour or two ago, the head of the Veterans Adminisration, Dr. David Shulkin broke the silence and forcefully repudiated Trump’s remarks. Hopefully , he will follow up with a resignaiton.August 16, 2017 11:02 pm at 11:02 pm #1340894
We are in this world to keep the Torah and getting killed by radical rightists would inhibit that.August 17, 2017 1:17 am at 1:17 am #1340934Sam2Participant
Only Joseph could choose to thank Donald Trump the day after he said that many people marching with neo-Nazis (and chanting things like “blood and soil” and “Jews will not replace us”) were “fine people”.August 17, 2017 1:21 am at 1:21 am #1340933
Yidd23 -“We are in this world to keep the Torah and getting killed by radical rightists would inhibit that.”
The biggest problem in Golus, is not them killing us, but assimilation! (Western world)
Actually, the more they hate us openly – the less assimilation.August 17, 2017 1:22 am at 1:22 am #1340936Sam2Participant
The far left is not a friend of the Jews. At all. But it takes a tremendous degree of short-sightedness to let hatred of liberals make you throw your lot in with actual Nazis.
It’s not an either/or choice. It’s possible to think that both are truly terrible.August 17, 2017 10:30 am at 10:30 am #1341026
Sam2 -“It’s not an either/or choice. It’s possible to think that both are truly terrible”
Funny, that’s exactly what I heard from Pres. Trump.
But unfortunely, the Commy libs are trying their hardest to make him a fascist!August 17, 2017 2:59 pm at 2:59 pm #1341277
“Funny, that’s exactly what I heard from Pres. Trump.”
Then you missed his entire speech. Including the part where he said both sides had “nice guys”
David Duke also liked the Presidents’ comments “Thank you President Trump for your honesty and courage to tell the truth about Charlottesville”
so thats Joseph, Health and David Duke who are thanking Trump for his honesty. Anyone else?August 17, 2017 8:47 pm at 8:47 pm #1341420
I’m quite confident that the Orthodox Jewish community will again vote for President Trump for re-election in a 2020 rematch with any opponent. (Assuming the media and Democrats hadn’t sinuously torpedoed the presidency beforehand.) Despite all his many faults, he will almost surely be a better choice than any Democrat. And most voters among the Torah community will recognize that again next time as (the official voter data of Orthodox neighborhoods shows) they did last time.
Regarding Charlottesville, what the President stated was that the rally was organized by and contained participants who are *not* NN/KKK/WS but are Confederate statues supporters. (Personally I think all Confederate symbols should be removed since the Confederacy was an act of treason.) And that the idiots from the KKK/NN, who the President condemned (not that he has to condemn every idiot in America who protests) latched unto the pro-Confederate rally.
It is a perverted lie peddled by the media that some here have brainlessly swallowed and eaten up whole that the President praised the WS/NN/KKK as being nice people. The President did not say any of the white supremacists/Neo-Nazis were fine people. He said that within the rally there were NON-white supremacists/NON-NN that are nice guys and were there to only protest the removal of the monument. Whether he is factually correct or not (and I believe he was factually correct on this point), he certainly was not referring the white supremacists as fine people.
The real threat to Jews in America is the left-wing, including mainstream Democrats but especially their violent Jew-killing supporters of BDS, Antifa, BLM cop-killers and other left-wing extremists who camouflage their Anti-Semitic Jew-hatred as “only” being pro-Palestine/anti-Israel and who the Democrat Party politicians embrace, respect and take into account their opinions.August 17, 2017 8:48 pm at 8:48 pm #1341422yytzParticipant
Heath, I praise all the mainstream Republicans, and you accuse me of being a liberal for that? Very strange.
Sure, the left opposes Torah morality, but the far-right opposes our very existence. Both should be opposed in appropriate ways.
Our mission is to promote Torah values, not to blindly side with whoever the “conservative” leader is.
As the Lubavitcher Rebbe said, neither left nor right is 100% right — only the Torah is.
Akuperma, it doesn’t make any sense to blame street crime on criminals’ leftist or anti-Semitic ideology. Very little of it has anything to do with that.August 17, 2017 10:15 pm at 10:15 pm #1341493
“he certainly was not referring the white supremacists as fine people.”
here is a rule of thumb: IF you are at a rally full Nazi/KKK guys an you stick around you are not a “fine person”
Its amazing how Almost everybody including both the ” Liberal media” and most mainstream Republican leaders such as senators, and even the alt right like David Duke managed to misunderstand him. But you were able to penetrate into his secret thoughts looking past his initial reluctance to condemn the Racists, his delayed condemnation and then walking it back the next day. Everybody but you and a handful of others realy get him.
You love quoting Rav Avigdor Miller. what was it he said about supporting a President who had the support of neo-nazis?August 17, 2017 10:29 pm at 10:29 pm #1341439
Ubiq -“so thats Joseph, Health and David Duke who are thanking Trump for his honesty. Anyone else?”
They had an interview with H. Cain & he said they couldn’t get him on the election, then refugees, then Russia. He spoke the truth!
This Rep. from Tennesee named Cohen wants to impeach Trump because of Charlottsville.
Now why don’t you move there and take all your liberal Jews with you?!?
You could live in his district with all the black people!August 17, 2017 10:59 pm at 10:59 pm #1341545
“He spoke the truth!”
Who spoke the truth and about what?
“This Rep. from Tennesee named Cohen wants to impeach Trump because of Charlottsville.”
“Now why don’t you move there”
Mostly becasue my family is here.
” and take all your liberal Jews with you?!?”
this may surprise you, but Im not in charge of all the liberal JEws
“You could live in his district with all the black people”
All the black people live in this one district? interesting. Id love to hear some more of your theoriesAugust 18, 2017 1:31 am at 1:31 am #1341639
Ubiq -“Who spoke the truth and about what?”
GO watch the video – it is on YWN.
You will just call him an Uncle Tom. That is what most libs would do!August 18, 2017 1:58 am at 1:58 am #1341629
I hope you don’t have parents or grandparents who survived Hitler. There’s no way to defend your ridiculous attempts to defend a president who continuously panders to the alt-right anti-Semites. This protest was organized and arranged by the KKK and neo-Nazis. Many alt-right extremists declined an invitation to a rally where the people (the entire group): vJews will not replace us”. If a fine person was there then he or she was a counter-protestor or bystander who got mowed down by a ‘nice guy’.
Frum people voted for Trump despite his German heritage, his father’s participation in the KKK and his refusal to condemn David Duke. He joins t Democrats, his lifelong political home, and is Senator Byrd’s replacement in Washington. There’s no place for him in the Republican party or in the American society.
Its sad that the conservative movement – the one that promoted individual liberty and fiscal responsibility – was hijacked by an incompetent and racist clown. It is even more disheartening that Frum people voted for him and are blinded by his populist, uneducated mannerisms.August 18, 2017 6:56 am at 6:56 am #1341660
Dave, your comment is full of fiction. The most obvious example is that Fred Trump, Donald’s father, was an Oheiv Yisroel. Fred not only built affordable housing in Brooklyn for Jews, he built a Orthodox shul on his own dime and on his own land and donated it to the frum community, all from his own money. This was reported, at the time, long before Donald was widely known.
The rest of your comment is riddled with fiction as well. Are you going to next argue he will ship Jared, Ivanka and his grandkids to the gas chambers?August 18, 2017 8:26 am at 8:26 am #1341698
Its as fictitious as Barack Obama’s relationship with Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers and Rashid Khalidi.
The fact is that Fred participated in KKK rallies and there is a picture to prove it.
The fact is that Donald Trump continues to diss the Jews and pander to the alt-right.
Maybe Jared and Ivanka have a ‘heter’ to support an alt-right agenda. Maybe they and you are naive.
If you haven’t regretted your vote for Trump by now (whose presidency is turning out to be just like normal people predicted) them him shooting someone on fifth avenue won’t change it. That is why I called it disheartening.August 18, 2017 8:27 am at 8:27 am #1341702
“On Memorial Day 1927, brawls erupted in New York led by sympathizers of the Italian fascist movement and the Ku Klux Klan. In the fascist brawl, which took place in the Bronx, two Italian men were killed by anti-fascists. In Queens, 1,000 white-robed Klansmen marched through the Jamaica neighborhood, eventually spurring an all-out brawl in which seven men were arrested.
One of those arrested was Fred Trump of 175-24 Devonshire Rd. in Jamaica.”
— Washington Post
I’m sure the response will be ‘fake news’…
Only Trump speaks the truth.August 18, 2017 9:35 am at 9:35 am #1341709
Jason Kessler – the organizer of the event – graduated from the University of Virginia, and like most Trump suppprters, voted for Barack Obama in 2008 and once attended an Occupy Wall Street rally in Charlottesville. He believed in a conspiracy theory that “Jews escaped Nazi Germany in order to erode Western values”.August 18, 2017 9:35 am at 9:35 am #1341712CTLAWYERParticipant
The only thing I’d thank Trump for is his resignation and his permanent leaving the USA.
Her certainly has provided no service to the American people.
He has cost us untold millions in expenses
He and his family are the epitome of trash
A thrice married adulterer is no role model
I’d like to see the whole clan in prison, but don’t want the expense.
After they finish tearing down Confederate statues, let them start tearing down the Trump name from buildings, golf courses, etc.August 18, 2017 9:42 am at 9:42 am #1341705
When white nationalists descended upon the historic Virginia city to protest the removal of a statue of Confederate general Robert E. Lee, their “Unite the Right” rally gathered a veritable who’s who of top neo-Nazis in the United States, including the former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke and alt-right leading light Richard Spencer, among others.
They immediately went after the Jews. At their Friday night rally at the University of Virginia, the white nationalists brandished torches and chanted anti-Semitic and Nazi slogans, including “blood and soil” (an English rendering of the Nazi “blut und boden”) and “Jews will not replace us” — all crafted to cast Jews as foreign interlopers who need to be expunged. The attendees proudly displayed giant swastikas and wore shirts emblazoned with quotes from Adolf Hitler. One banner read, “Jews are Satan’s children.”
“The truth is,” Duke told a large crowd Saturday, “the American media, and the American political system, and the American Federal Reserve, is dominated by a tiny minority: the Jewish Zionist cause.” Addressing another group, Richard Spencer mocked Charlottesville’s Jewish mayor, Mike Signer. “Little Mayor Signer – ‘See-ner’ – how do you pronounce this little creep’s name?” Spencer asked. The crowd responded by chanting, “Jew, Jew, Jew.” In TV interviews, attendees were not shy about their anti-Semitism.
Denver PostAugust 18, 2017 9:44 am at 9:44 am #1341718
Dave, Fred was never a member or supporter of the KKK. Fred was an unambiguous Oheiv Yisroel, just as his son Donald is. Donald throughout his life has had excellent friendly relations with Yidden. His father lived near where the KKK rallied and when the police cleared the streets he was passing through they took him with everyone else on the street they were clearing. Fred was never charged with anything, even minor, whereas the same NYT article you quoted named individuals who were charged with participating at the rally, unlike Fred who the article indicates was not charged with anything once they determined he was a pedestrian.
Even the uber-leftist Snopes confirms what I just related regarding Fred Trump.August 18, 2017 9:46 am at 9:46 am #1341735
I don’t follow the news enough to know all the details here, but I have followed the news enough to know anyone who still thinks anything they read really happened that way is a bit nuts.
Having said that, as someone who supported trump only because he wasn’t Hilary, I have no problem hearing people complain about him. But the posters here who are spewing against his stupidity and asinine COMMENTS, while extoling/having extolled the virtues of the former administration who LITERALLY FUNDED THE TERRORISTS responsible for the Barcelona attack and kissed terrorist leaders while pretending these car rammings were all random acts of psych ward runaways – you really are missing some serious cognitive pieces. own up or sit this one out. Playing both sides of the fence is just plain dishonest.August 18, 2017 10:13 am at 10:13 am #1341757
I fully agree with Syag’s comment.August 18, 2017 10:14 am at 10:14 am #1341750
There’s nothing wrong with kissing terrorist leaders.August 18, 2017 10:15 am at 10:15 am #1341768
well that’s too bad, now nobody else will…August 18, 2017 10:16 am at 10:16 am #1341762
Love is love.August 18, 2017 10:17 am at 10:17 am #1341766
You are right. Donald Trump is the least anti-Semitic person anyone has ever met. He even said so himself and unlike the uber-left Snopes, Trump never lies.
I am certain that Fred Trump’s arrest at a KKK rally was a coincidence. It’s possible that Martin Luther King also passed by at the same time.
Trump never pandered to the alt-right and immediately condemned David Duke. He simply likes to wait and see all the facts. You will see that Trump never jumps to conclusions, and unlike Barack Obama, waits to get all the facts. This is why the alt-right bemoaned Trump’s comments at the beautifully organized press conference.
Also, what the Fake News failed to report that Trump repealed Obamacare, overhauled the tax code, and invested a trillion dollars in infrastructure and a Mexican wall. At the same time, Trump found the missing money from the Social Security fund which will enable the entitlements to continue without any reform and impending bankruptcy. Finally, his reduction in the trade deficit (with the funding of US manufacturing plants) miraculously reduced the national debt and resulted in a surplus.
Voters already realize that electing a level-headed, non-politician was the right choice. No president in history has accomplished so much in only a few months.
Historians will look back and see that Trump was the real founding father.
Thank you Trump!
Thank you Joseph for bringing all this to our attention!August 18, 2017 10:18 am at 10:18 am #1341775
SL -“I don’t follow the news enough to know all the details here, but I have followed the news enough to know anyone who still thinks anything they read really happened that way is a bit nuts”
A voice of reason in a sea of insanity!August 18, 2017 10:27 am at 10:27 am #1341790BenKParticipant
It is Indeed Very Great That Our President is Not Bound by “Political Correctness” to the point of obstructing Justice and Security and Truth! At thr same time it is understood SOME Political COrrectness IS NEEDED as in to be DECENT. It is a Breath of Frsh Air after Pres Obama to see this regarding the Crazy Left.
Now… If Only Pres Trump would be AS CLEAR AS DAY in this regard with the Racists and Anti Semites of the FAR RIGHT. ESPECIALLY the VILE Neo Nazis and KKK! Islamic JIHADISM And NAZISM Are of the Same EVilAugust 18, 2017 10:27 am at 10:27 am #1341792
Syag, should I refrain from indicating the instances, such at this, when I agree with you?
Dave, just as you ate your heart out that the smartest people in the world — Acheinu Bnei Yisroel, the Torah community — in 2016 by extremely large margins voted for Donald Trump as President of the United States of America, you’ll be having all that same heartburn again in 2020 when, should he choose to run for re-election, the same voting data will reoccur in our kehilos.August 18, 2017 10:31 am at 10:31 am #1341800
oh Joseph, so sweet of you to offer but I don’t think it happens often enough that you should worry about it.
😏August 18, 2017 10:49 am at 10:49 am #1341812
I see a strong parallel between the emotional fury sparked by specific trump supporters posts and by Joseph’s posts. As I touched on above, when people vehemently support something, they need to be honest as well.
You can support a person or cause with your very life blood, but when they are wrong, or err, you need to either be quiet, or be honest.
When an Obama supporter hates trump, nobody cares. But when they either 1) accuse trump of the same things Obama does and turn a blind eye to Obama/Clinton or 2) fail to acknowledge inappropriate acts or mistakes their leader does it ranckles. Same way (l’havdil) people who inappropriately defend Torah, they refuse to acknowledge legitimate concerns with mistakes communities or leaders made (I am NOT talking about being disrespectful to rabbonim ch”v), or more accurately, to say outright that there are no mistakes, or that any voice of dissent on indecent behavior is just anti Semitism, it ranckles in that same way.
But those two ‘camps’ who do that, are the biggest complainers about the other ‘camp’. It isn’t the cause, as much as it is the blindness, disingenuousness and dishonesty that flares the fury. If your cause is REALLY that worthy, (which Torah is) then support it honestly.
You can like someone, you can support a cause, and you must defend the Torah, but once you start lying for it, you have battuled it and your own credibility.August 18, 2017 11:00 am at 11:00 am #1341799
Trump is a disgusting person. And yes, here I mean his choices in women and fashion, not politics, but eww.August 18, 2017 11:45 am at 11:45 am #1341819jdf007Participant
The President has an appearance to talk about rebuilding the infrastructure, so the trains aren’t falling apart, the roads aren’t crumbling, and people and goods can get around. The Press, always finding their political slant more important than American people, start yelling at the president questions about the “confederacy”! The President calls people with helmets and clubs being bused in as thugs, and pointed out that at least the original group had a PERMIT and were legally and constitutionally allowed to be there. However small that group is, I don’t care. I don’t follow alt-radical message boards of any persuasion. I didn’t follow the lead-up to the riot. I am not on leftist email lists or craigslists ads. The press missed the points about law and order, aka the rule of law, peace, and not glorifying violence. The same press that has called every riot, every car burning, every cop injured as “peaceful protests” for years. Now I see that, somehow, Trump is the bad guy, as framed by “journ-o-lists” (recall the email list of journolists who made it their mission to put Obama in a good light in all articles) who care more about party than principle.
So lets go see the alternative. Was it better with Hillary who had conferences with thugs and rioters and couldn’t go a speech without going on about race and prisons, not roads, schools nor jobs? Bernie who allows the thugs to rush him off stage and steal his microphone? Except he seems quick to single out one nation in the world for his ire! Or, I know, Kaisich, who goes to a matzo factory and teaches the staff there about whats really in the Bible! Maybe we can bring back Obama, and have the Muslim Brotherhood back in the whitehouse, blame the recent attack in Spain on Israelis living in apartments, while calling them just “random folks” that were not at all targeted for being in a kosher establishment. Remember Paris. Yea, let’s for the that tired old nonsense again.
The ease of this anti-Trump brainwashing, anti-any-Republican really, but especially anti-Trump over such nonsense is really enlightening about how things in history so easily occurs. Maybe I sinned myself here, but I didn’t mention anything that used 12 “anonymous” sources like the articles about Trump does. Record amount of leaks per day is happening I read. And PS. this has gone so over the line I created an account to post.August 18, 2017 12:08 pm at 12:08 pm #1341838
Hillary is very self interested. She doesn’t actually hold liberal beliefs, she just profits off them.August 21, 2017 11:12 am at 11:12 am #1343522commonsense49Participant
Let’s all vote for CruzAugust 21, 2017 3:31 pm at 3:31 pm #1343621CTLAWYERParticipant
I have personally known Hillary Rodngham (now Clinton) since 1970 when we worked in Joe Lieberman’s first political campaign, a primary election to unseat State Senator Edward Marcus in New Haven.
She held Liberal beliefs at that time and still does. The fact is that what is considered ‘Liberal’ has shifted over time. I remember when there were loads of Liberal Republicans, men such as Nelson Rockefeller, John V. Lindsay, US Senator from CT, Prescott Bush (father and grandfather of Presidents Bush). But times change and the definition has also changed. The Liberal of my youth is not a centrist or just right of center in the Democratic Party.August 21, 2017 3:35 pm at 3:35 pm #1343624
Definitions have changed how?
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