February 23, 2017 5:55 pm at 5:55 pm #619316
Hi! I just wanted to tell all the women who are struggling to find a long-lasting lipstick for shabbos/yom tov that I spent 2.5 hours lipstick shopping yesterday until I found the PERFECT lipstick for shabbos/yom tov, and this lipstick is COVERGIRL OUTLAST ALL DAY LIP COLOR. It lasts and lasts and lasts. It lightens a bit overnight when you sleep but only a very little bit. It is PERFECT for shabbos / yom tov.February 23, 2017 7:07 pm at 7:07 pm #1219579
Wow so easy breezy and beautifulFebruary 23, 2017 7:11 pm at 7:11 pm #1219580
Does it come in green?February 23, 2017 10:48 pm at 10:48 pm #1219581
Thanks so much for the info. Good thing to know. I am wondering though if it really works for everyone. Everyone is different. Some people have very dry lips.February 24, 2017 12:11 am at 12:11 am #1219582
Probably not healthy, so you might not want to do it every week. If you do, you’ll probably want to use an overnight moisturizer or something.February 24, 2017 2:47 am at 2:47 am #1219583
Sorry but this lipstick is assur. It contains cockroaches. Ask your LOR.
CoverGirl Outlast Lipcolor
“Ingredients: Isododecane, Trimethylsiloxysilicate, Dimethicone, Disteardimonium Hectorite, Propylparaben, Propylene Carbonate, Simmondsia Chinensis (Jojoba) Seed Oil, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract, Tocopheryl Acetate, Flavor/Aroma. May Contain/Peut Contenir: Mica, Titanium Dioxide, Iron Oxides, Red 30 Lake, Carmine , Yellow 5 Lake, Blue 1 Lake, Red 6, Red 7 Lake, Yellow 6 Lake. Moisturizing Topcoat: Sucrose Polycottonseedate, Ozokerite, Beeswax/Cire D’Abeille, Tocopheryl Acetate, Tocopherol, Propyl Gallate, Propylparaben, Acetyl Glucosamine, Cocos Nucifera (Coconut Oil), Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Extract, Theobroma Cacao (Cocoa) Seed Butter, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter), Sodium Saccharin, Flavor/Aroma.”February 24, 2017 2:50 am at 2:50 am #1219584
Cockroach or Carmine may also be listed in the ingredients section as:
Natural red 4
All insects and from what I know, assur.February 24, 2017 4:16 am at 4:16 am #1219585YW Moderator-29 👨💻Moderator
Carmine is not a cockroach. That is not quite an honest presentation of the facts. When something is made with butter you wouldn’t say it contains a cow.February 24, 2017 4:19 am at 4:19 am #1219586
Thank you, YW Moderator-29. And lightbrite – I legit just did contact my LOR and he said it’s fine. Also, I don’t know where you got that list of ingredients from, but I just checked the packaging of the lipstick I just bought and carmine is NOT under the ingredients list; it is merely under the “may contain” list.February 24, 2017 4:28 am at 4:28 am #1219588
Glad that you asked your LOR.
Waiting for the Mods to submit the post including the FDA statement.
Wear and Enjoy 🙂February 24, 2017 5:15 am at 5:15 am #1219589YW Moderator-29 👨💻Moderator
You might want to try getting your information from a reliable Kashrut organization on what Carmine is and how it is made.February 24, 2017 5:27 am at 5:27 am #1219590
“The OU considers cochineal extract and carmine to be non-kosher.” (OU)February 24, 2017 5:33 am at 5:33 am #1219591
What do you want? You want to prove that it’s kosher?
Please do. Show me sources.
I want truth. Show me truth if I’m wrong. Please.
Otherwise what’s the point?February 24, 2017 5:59 am at 5:59 am #1219592
Although I personally wear lipstick, I know people that don’t for tznius reasons.
AFAIK if it’s not meant to be eaten and derive benefit from ingesting it, it’s okay to apply kashrus-wise. (NOT talking about Pesach here.)
Lightbrite and many others might want to be machmir, but all things NOT being equal, it makes more sense to do so for tznius reasons vs. kashrus reasons. Even more so if one wears (or is tempted to wear) the bold colors trending nowadays.February 24, 2017 4:06 pm at 4:06 pm #1219594February 24, 2017 4:07 pm at 4:07 pm #1219595
So, if you want to take on a chumra and go above and beyond the MINHAG HAOLAM, that’s fine. But to say that the minhag haolam is treif and assur is unacceptable.February 24, 2017 4:12 pm at 4:12 pm #1219596
Furthermore, your quotation from the OU is from an article that begins with this: “The following article is an overview of colorants used in the food industry.” I don’t see any indication, therefore, that OU is disagreeing with Star-K. Their article is simply in regards to food whereas we’re talking about cosmetics.February 24, 2017 6:39 pm at 6:39 pm #1219598MenoParticipant
I spent 2.5 hours lipstick shopping yesterday until I found the PERFECT lipstick for shabbos/yom tov
How did you know how long it lasts after only 2.5 hours of shopping?February 24, 2017 7:24 pm at 7:24 pm #1219599zahavasdadParticipant
It is perfectly OK to get benefit from non-kosher animals, otherwise you could not wear leather (Even if the leather comes from a Kosher Animal, it wasnt properly schected) and Streimels are made from furFebruary 24, 2017 9:35 pm at 9:35 pm #1219600nishtdayngesheftParticipant
There is a concept in Halacha that “sicha” is like “achila”. That is why there are people who are makpid not to use non-kosher products to apply to their body, such as ointments, oils, perfumes or make up and the like.
I have never heard that “levisha” being considered like “achila”. There is no reason to refrain from wearing objects from non kosher animals, while there is a reason to refrain from spreading animal products from non kosher animals on one’s body.February 26, 2017 3:53 pm at 3:53 pm #1219601
RY – unhealthy in what way? What damage does it do?February 26, 2017 10:22 pm at 10:22 pm #1219602
It might cause your lips to become chapped.February 26, 2017 10:40 pm at 10:40 pm #1219603
On that topic, do you or anyone else have any advice for dry/chapped lips? I have really chapped lips and it can cause chillul Shabbos (b’shogeg) issues.
Wondering if anyone has any suggestions.February 28, 2017 12:51 am at 12:51 am #1219604moi aussiMember
Vaseline for chapped lipsFebruary 28, 2017 6:13 am at 6:13 am #1219605
They sell it, at least in the US, in little squeezey tubes and it’s a miracle for your lips. Lasts a long time too. My dermatologists secret (shared with me and now shared with you) ~ 🙂February 28, 2017 4:11 pm at 4:11 pm #1219607
Thanks so much Lightbrite! I’ll have to see how I can get ahold of it.
This issue has been bothering me for a long time, and I have been having trouble figuring out what I can do about it other than putting scotch tape on my lips before Shabbos.
Thanks!February 28, 2017 4:16 pm at 4:16 pm #1219608MenoParticipant
putting scotch tape on my lips before Shabbos
That sounds like a great idea, what’s wrong with that?
You could probably even sell it as shabbos lip tape and make some money.February 28, 2017 5:01 pm at 5:01 pm #1219609
“You could probably even sell it as shabbos lip tape and make some money.”
Now that sounds like a great idea!!! I could make all different colored tapes and start a whole new style.February 28, 2017 6:22 pm at 6:22 pm #1219610
LU: Especially if you suffer from dry skin elsewhere as well, make sure you drink enough water and that your iron levels are okay.February 28, 2017 8:07 pm at 8:07 pm #1219611WinnieThePoohParticipant
Lilmod, with the added advantage that if placed on as slightly different angle, you can market it as a segula for not speaking L”H.February 28, 2017 11:56 pm at 11:56 pm #1219612
Mammele – thanks for the tips. I actually drink tons of water, but I have always had dry lips and hands and eyes and hair. I think it’s just my nature – I don’t think it’s connected to how much I drink.
And the last time I had a blood test, my iron levels were fine. Is there a connection between iron and dry skin?February 28, 2017 11:59 pm at 11:59 pm #1219613
WTP – interesting idea, but it might make it hard to keep certain Mitzvos like eating 3 seudos on Shabbos, bentching, making brachos, davening, greeting people, being friendly and nice to others, etc…
Also if you attached the tape in such a manner as to close your lips, I would think you’d be in more danger of inadvertantly ripping off lipskin with the tape anytime you breathe or move your lips at all.March 1, 2017 12:28 am at 12:28 am #1219614
LU: yes there is, but obviously dry skin can have many causes. And it’s not the only symptom of iron deficiency, just one of many that sometimes goes unnoticed.March 1, 2017 12:49 am at 12:49 am #1219615
Interesting – iron deficiency does not seem to be the cause in my case. Aren’t there people who just have dry skin by nature?
The dry eyes concern me a bit. Most of the time, it’s not such a problem, but I had one short tekufa where I was seriously afraid my eyes would stick, c”v.
Do you know what the cause of dry eyes is? Is it connected to dry skin?
I’m just asking since you seem knowledgeable on the topic.March 1, 2017 1:08 am at 1:08 am #1219616
Sorry but I think you’re better off seeing a doctor than asking me. Sometimes it’s only seasonal though.
Or caused by staring at a computer screen for too long. You can also try supplementing with fish oil capsules or eating more fatty fish.
The Mayo Clinic has a good online article listing aging and vitamin A deficiency among other causes.
There are OTC eye drops to alleviate it, but if it’s persistent you should really see an eye doctor to be safe.
If it’s related to diet or dry air they can sometimes go together.
BUT AGAIN I’M NOT A DOCTOR.March 1, 2017 2:09 am at 2:09 am #1219617golferParticipant
No need for a disclaimer Mammele.
We know you’re not a doctor.
And your advice is always kind and wise.
The medical consultations here seem to be a logical progression of the Halachic inquiries that keep popping up no matter how often people post AYLOR. You’re better off posting an answer than posting AYLMD. Which will be ignored. Trust me on that.March 1, 2017 3:42 am at 3:42 am #1219618
Okay you guys/girls/ladies/men… you convinced me to maybe try wearing bug juice.
Today I ordered makeup online and they’re sending me free samples of lip gloss B”H. Dunno if they have carmine but even if they do, I still want to test out the colors.
Would send them to you Shopping613 for your Purim costume… but that’s assur.
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