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  • #2101278
    kitov
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    The frum Jews are ambivalent about moving to Israel.
    During the exodus from Egypt most didn’t want to leave.
    They believed the spies in the desert
    And relatively few returned from Babylon to rebuild the temple.
    According to the book of Isaiah the gentile nations will bring all
    The Jews to Israel.
    The gentile nations sent the Jews into exile and they
    Will bring them back from exile.
    May we live to see this.

    #2101532
    Reb Eliezer
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    Are you building the Beis Hamikdash which according to the Aim Habanim Semacha perek 3, is chiyuv before the coming of Meshiach as the Yerushalmi Maaser Sheni (5,2) quoted by the Tosfas Yom Tov there? The wall of fire will descend on the one we built.

    #2101538
    Reb Eliezer
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    You can download the above sefer a new edition published 5773 (2013) from hebrewbooks dot org/53692

    #2101542
    commonsaychel
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    @kitov, that is a very very long nap you just woke up from

    #2101541
    HaKatan
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    Israel is, as Rav Elchonon wrote in the name of the Chofetz Chaim, the worst galus, galus under the Yevsektzii. With the clarity of hindsight, we see how prophetic and on-target are those words.

    When Mashiach comes, may it be today, please Hashem, and when he tells everyone to go to E”Y, then if people still don’t want to go to E”Y, then you might want to revisit your post.

    #2101550
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Not exactly sure what is being said here

    #2101554
    DaMoshe
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    I had a conversation once with someone about wanting Mashiach to arrive. He was telling me how so many people don’t really want Mashiach because their lives are pretty good, and they don’t want it to change for an unknown. My response was, “Imagine the happiest day of your life. Your wedding, birth of children, whatever it is. Try and remember the feeling you had then, that amazing feeling of pure joy. Would you like to experience that feeling again?
    When Mashiach comes, the feeling of joy we’ll experience will be even better than that. We’ll experience a joy like we’ve never known before. And it won’t be for just a short time. We’ll have a Beis Hamikdash, we’ll have the shechinah present there… it will be everlasting. Even if you have the most incredible life right now, wouldn’t you want that?”

    #2101613
    Gadolhadorah
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    Perhaps one of the most challenging concepts in yiddeshkeit is explaining the concept of “zman moishiach” in clear and intelligible terms that can be understood by a poishete yid who has not read all the meforshim and more contemporary meforshim that are tossed around on threads here in the CR. The terminology used is abstract with loads of superlative adjectives that most would have a hard time relating to and understanding how their daily lives would change on Day 1 of a post-Moishiach world.

    #2101691
    Reb Eliezer
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    The Beis Elokim, Shar Hatefila 17 says that tefila is cumulative. Less tefila is required when we reach the expected time of the coming of Meshiach. Most people must want his coming. The Ksav Sofer quoted by the Mayanei Shel Torah explains the pasuk הנסתרות לה’ אלקינו, והנגלות לנו ולבנינו. There are two times when Meshiach can come בעתה אחשנה, the fixed time and the early time. The fixed time is hidden to us and we have no control over but the early time is in our hands to accelerate it depends on us לעשות את דברי התורה הזאת by keeping the mitzvos of the Torah and praying for his coming. When the fixed time comes, if we are not worthy, a melech kashe kehaman has to come to force us to teshuva which is from fear, so we still need teshuva before hand that is the greatness that it brings the geulah but before the time teshuva from love will accelerate his coming. So in either case we should do teshuva from love and Meshiach will come because his time to come is here or we are accelerating his coming.

    #2102101

    market forces: seems that easier to be an honest doctor than teacher. I am aware that I am contradicting R Salanter here: someone said that he is burnt out in shechita as he is afraid of aveiros and wants to go into business. R Salanter said that there are more potential aveiros in business.

    Still, most jobs in free countries are competitive and regulated. So, outside of actual fraud, most people do their jobs decently even if their yetzer harah tells them otherwise. At the same time, “Jewish” jobs are more protected, medieval style, and hinge on diligence of principals and Rabbis. When raising questions about chinuch, I often heard “trust me” or “trust Hashem”, in one extreme case, “where else are you going to go now”. I quoted already a Rav here who was told to trust Hashem on who the 6th grade teacher will be next year, replied that his check will meanwhile be in Hashem’s escrow .. R Kamenetsky and R Ruderman recalled their 2nd grade Rebbe and blamed him that “only” two of them became T’Ch from their class … I am not saying that everyone is like that, H’V. I am saying – the system allows that. There are good reasons for this, as our current system is an emergency response to Shoah and assimilation and a lot of good results were achieved, but we are living in this emergency for 80 years already.

    Maybe we can think how we can introduce right social measures – accountability, transparency, competition – to make systems work better. This is not new – halakha specifically allows unlimited competition in chinuch to make it affordable. That might mean, for example, breaking up big schools into smaller classes; online options; making schools less ideological so that people can choose different school without fear of indoctrination into another hashkofa; “rate my rebbe” .com, publishing test results (both Torah and secular) …

    but I digress. The relevant point here is that the less competitive nature of chinuch allows for less ethical behavior. Allows, nit requires, but some people might take advantage.

    #2102281
    Reb Eliezer
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    Look at the Meshech Chachma in Parashas Bechukosai on Veaf Gam Zos to understand the galus.

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