April 6, 2014 5:35 am at 5:35 am #612517Little FroggieMemberApril 6, 2014 5:46 am at 5:46 am #1011061I. M. ShluffinParticipant
You have a good argument, but that ruins the whole “4” theme of Pesach.April 6, 2014 9:01 am at 9:01 am #1011062sm29Participant
I agree. They need love and support. They are going through a hard time. We sometimes want to fix things quickly, but we need patience. If we show them we are there for them, they will hopefully come around.April 6, 2014 10:41 am at 10:41 am #1011063notasheepMember
IM, there is a fifth cup of wine as well….April 6, 2014 12:09 pm at 12:09 pm #1011064TheGoqParticipant
It would be great if the fifth son was always welcome at the table and in a loving home he would be but that is not always the case, often he is chased away by sanctimony and hypocrisy and yes even hatred.April 6, 2014 1:18 pm at 1:18 pm #1011065I. M. ShluffinParticipant
notasheep: Really? I guess I ‘m usually asleep by then.April 6, 2014 4:21 pm at 4:21 pm #1011066SaysMeMember
‘They will yet return’… Im yirtze Hashem soon…April 6, 2014 7:09 pm at 7:09 pm #1011067notasheepMember
It’s for Eliyahi Hanavi. There is a fifth expression of freedom to go with it but I can’t remember what it is. But the kos shel Eliyahu is officially the fifth cupApril 6, 2014 9:06 pm at 9:06 pm #1011068Bookworm120Participant
Silence will fall….. >;)April 6, 2014 9:09 pm at 9:09 pm #1011069MurphysLawMember
Just thinking, The four sons…
Non of them thinking the same = Wild action Shabbos afternoon…April 7, 2014 8:33 am at 8:33 am #1011070Privileged To Be AMember
Who said all the sons were brothers?
Perhaps mum and dad will still get their beauty sleep.April 7, 2014 11:15 pm at 11:15 pm #1011071ðŸ‘‘RebYidd23Participant
Of course they’re brothers, but that doesn’t mean that they all disagree.April 8, 2014 8:18 pm at 8:18 pm #1011072lzParticipant
notasheep–the five expressions are v’hotzaisi, v’hitzalti, v’ga’alti, v’lakachti, v’haivaisiApril 9, 2014 3:51 pm at 3:51 pm #1011073Sam2Participant
notasheep: There are officially 4 cups and 4 L’shonos of Geulah. The fifth cup for Eliyahu Hanavi is a cute Minhag that started relatively recently (I think well after the time of the Rishonim).
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