the most delicious food ever

A Yid shouldn’t be a foodie.

That said, agreed, farina is delicious.

I’ll pass on sushi.

Cholent mixed with Kishka is more delicious.

Try it out

Cheese blintzes and cheese latkes probably came directly from Har Sinai, considering how good they are (if done right).

@UJM they had yiddisher foodies for years, they were allways called Fressers. LOL
Koko-osh cake rocks! the experts gave the opinions, UJM says its best with cold mik, Avrira said the brisker eat at least 8 ozs. Reb E likes it hot out of the oven.

“A Yid shouldn’t be a foodie…”
Azoy, ….too much time spent dissing bnos yisroel and not enough time checking out the early versions of the Michelin ratings in Eretz Cannan. When Yitzchak avinu (aka the Founding Foodie) wanted a simple roast goat with a good cabernet) and Yaakov learned of his desire, he immediately worked with Executive Chef Rivkah Imanu and provided his father with a four-star repast, (although the reviewer noted a few goat hairs on the plate that might have fallen off the server’s uniform).
Throughout our history and mesorah, FOOD has been part of the centrality of yiddeshkeit.
B’taavon!!

Farina-agreed

Avira, Yasher Koach. Sometimes I can relate the Emes but can’t explain the details as well as you.

Its really a strech to claim that if one kvels about the food that the Ebeshter has provided to us and for which we thank him each time we take a bite, he is elevating his love of farina, kishka or mapu tofu over his love of hashem and violates the issur of lo sasuru, and the mitzvas asei of veahavta es Hashem….
Ahavas tofu and ahavas hashem are NOT mutually exclusive!!

AD….very interesting and compelling argument. I would suspect the same inyan would apply to any “secular” (with a lower-case “s”) activity/hobby engaged in by a yid which moves beyond the level of a diversion for physical/mental health needs and becomes a quasi-obsession.

The Ben Ish Chai says that we say Shabbos Shalom because we are uniting the mitzva of eating for shabbos and one’s desire of food by eating lashem Shomayim.
We call the sacrifice shelamim making peace between Hashem and us by eating lashem Shomayim, see SA O’CH 231.

A nazir is a sinner because he doesn’t want to enjoy what Hashem provided to us.

My Grandfather ZL. would always get disgusted when a American balbatisher person woould talk about food, he would say in der alter heim who would talk about food, the shleppers and the schnorrers who never had food and when they had meat the only thing that remained was the memory.
I found as a rule the people busy talking about food are very shallow people with no real interests in life.

“I found as a rule the people busy talking about food are very shallow people with no real interests in life……”
Actually, quite the opposite. I have a good friend who is a researcher at Sloan Kettering in NYC (who was at one time considered for a nobel prize for his work in molecular biology) is also an outstanding chef and is fascinated by the food chemistry of cooking. In between, he also finds time for a daf yomi going on 6 or 7 years now. I don’t consider him, nor many of our other frum friends who enjoy (and talk about) good food and many other subjects to be “shallow”. Nor are they obsessive to the point of searching for the perfect woodland mushroom or artisinal salt.

Nothing wrong enjoying the food, just check whether it affects your decision making:
if you are choosing between staying home or going to a dvar Torah, you hesitate and a kiddush after that makes you go – that is fine at some level. But if one shul has a better dvar Torah and another – better food, and you choose food, maybe this is not fine. If you go get “free” food because you are hungry – fine. If you get it because it is tastier than what you wish to spend – then, less so. There are though several agadot about poor people who demanded “stuffed bird” (a delicatessen of Gemora times) and being offered beans instead .. Conclusions seem to be inconclusive, but generally supportive of the demand – one guy choked and died without favoring food, in another case, Rav’s sister suddenly comes in from faraway and brings the stuffed chicken.

Gadol, chicken used to be way more expensive. Maybe it is cheap now due to industrial methods raising them. So, when we say that men need “basar” for yom tov, we are saying that they should be OK with just meat, without the chicken. Rav, who offered beans, meant – I can give you what I eat myself. An interesting nekudah is the sister that appeared with the chicken: she was travelling for days, so Hashem gave her an idea to prepare the chicken for the poor man who will come to Rav several days later, anticipating his response.

Poutine is perhaps the best reason to stay south of the 45th parallel ….if you yearn for burnt french fries covered with a greyish-orange gravy and topped with cholov yisroel cheese curds that taste like the small pink colored rubber erasers you used in elementary school than I guess you’ll have to find a chavrusah in Kiryas Tosh.

@kokoshcake, Poutine does not even come close to your namesake

Of coarse every action we do must be leshem shamayim. That being said, a person who speaks about a material pleasure should not have to put out a disclaimer every time, “I am a foodie (but only leshem shamayim).” Im a big fan of mussar, but sometimes it’s a bit too much.

tongue

KGN: Have you ever heard of “sashimi”….sort of like a cheeseburger where you’ve asked them to hold the cheese, bun, special sauce, tomato and onion.
If you want to stay with the maki style sushiroll, ask your local Itame to prepare a Ungarishe Roll with really fresh pike or carp rolled in Nori (dried seaweed) and topped with a simple sugar syrup. B’taavon!!

I don’t understand how this topic is still active. How are you guys so enthusiastic about food?!

hey shadchansays! how you feeling these days?