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    The Root Behind The Palestinian/Israeli Really Just Has To Do With Islam

    In their holy book it says that a land that was once Muslim has to remain Muslim forever


    Like many topics in here recently, you’re basically just trying to flame people into a vitriolic discussion. Are you asking if Jews were the first to occupy the land? Why don’t you tell us where the “Palestinians” actually came from, as in, from what country. Also, tell us who created the word “Palestine.” Please, we need a history lesson from you.


    B’avonosaynu H’rabim


    @dnetsk I don’t support Palestinians at all, for that matter I don’t believe their ever were Palestinian people, the only reason I said the word Palestinian is cause I thought people on YWN wouldn’t know what I was talking about unless I used that word, FYI I think Palestinians should really just be called Falestinians cause there never was, never will be, a Falestinian people ever in existence, the really original inhabitants of Israel were always the Yidden, and they are the rightful owners of the land now and forever


    Bnei yishmael (muslims) will be the last nation to fight klal Yisroel before Mashiach comes.

    Why is there so much Moslem terrorists? There is a sentence in their bible saying “there is a rock behind you kill him” and they believe the word rock refers to a jew. Just like we have a mitzvah to destroy amalek they believe that they have a commandment to destroy jews


    Bottom Line:-Halocho:- Eisov Sonei es Yaakov!!

    kj chusid

    The root is actually the Torah which states that if you rebel against g-d (by creating a state) u will be hunted down like sheep it’s a simple equation rebel against Hashem and his Torah =major issues


    The title is a little sloppy in my o


    This is their religions oral tradition commentary : Once the forces of Islam conquer a land or territory, it is to remain under Islamic dominion forever (‘for generations’), and it is a mortal affront to the supremacy of Islam when such territories would ever be lost to the dominion of Islam and revert to previous – infidel – ownership as was the case in Palestine. It was a Muslim controlled territory (under the Muslim Turks and later the Muslim Arabs) and reverted by the decree of the U.N. resolution back to its previous owners: the Jews.

    So by any Frum Yidden, supporting the Falestinian, they are breaking Halacha because they are in reality supporting the claim in their religion that any land that is once Muslim has to remain Muslim forever


    @Mashiach Agent u misquoted their verse, here is their verse in its entirety : “The Last Hour will not come until the Muslims fight against the Jews and the Muslims kill them to the extent that the Jews will hide behind a rock or a tree and the rock or the tree will say: O’ Muslim, the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the Gharqad tree ( Boxthorn tree) will not say that because it is the tree of the Jews.” (Sahih Muslim) The Jews are currently planting lots of Gharqad trees in Israel to protect them.” also this verse is from their religons oral tradition

    shmoolik 1

    The root of the conflict is “do the Jews have a right to live independantly in their land” or not

    this is not only the claim of the moslems it is of most umot haolam and some our own people

    see the first Rashi


    Muslims don’t accept being ruled by non-Muslims, and Zionists insist on ruling the Arabs. While the Israelis can befried the non-Muslim Arabs, e.g. the Christians, the zionists have no hope of ever living at peace with the Muslims of the Middle East.

    The only Jews in Eretz Yisrael who can hope to make peace are the Hareidim, since they do not insist on ruling the Arabs, but the Hareidim are unlikely to regain control of the yishuv, at least in the foreseeable future.


    HaYom – Im Tishmau B’Kolo.


    147 – are you aware you posted “Eisov Sonei es Yaakov” on a post about islam?


    Creamsoda, two small historical corrections. 1. The Arabs controlled the land first, followed by the Mamelukes and then the Turks. 2. The Yidden were not the original inhabitants. There were never more than Avos and their families prior to Yehoshuahs invasion after Moshe died


    Let’s put aside the who was there first track, because that is irrelevant. You are talking about a promise made by H’ that he intends to keep; see Rebbe Akiva laughing at foxes on Har HaBayis, Makkos, 24B. Everything else is commentary; i.e., the rest of secular history, i.e., the year of 711, when Moslems began their imperialistic quest, religious killings, and land grabs. Fast forward to today, and all we can do is wonder when the final confrontation with Yishmael will occur. Correct me if I’m wrong, but Chazal tell us that the interpersonal doings between the Avos and the population B’Aretz, are indicators of future events. So keep laughing! There’s nothing else you can do!


    The source of Arab hatred is British greed.

    The Queen

    “really original inhabitants of Israel were always the Yidden”

    Learn Yehoshua.


    “The Root Behind The Palestinian/Israeli Really Just Has To Do With Islam”

    Given that some of the worst anti-Israel terrorists have been non-Muslims that would seem to be a stretch.

    🐵 ⌨ Gamanit

    The yidden don’t have to be the original inhabitants to have the rights to the land.

    Avi K

    Akuperma, actually according to demographic projections the religious public is going to be the majority in a few decades. As for ruling the Moslems, Rav Kahane, who was a Zionist, wanted to pay them to leave. Another possibility is simply getting them to believe that they cannot win. They will then submit to what they see as their fate. Thus, Moslems in Israel, including Judea and Samaria, were quiet until they started to think that they had a chance.


    akuperma: Where does it say that “Zionists insist on ruling the Arabs?” What nonsense. Muslims say they want to rule America. Should America hand over the keys?

    Who does the Land belong too? Arabs came to Israel from Syria, Egypt and Saudi Arabia after Jews started returning home. They came for jobs and now claim a non-existent history as “Palestinians.”

    Prior to 1948, there was a Palestinian flag. Take a look at it and tell us what you find.

    No one wants to rule over them. There are 57 Muslim countries. Let them choose one of them. We’ll be happy to see them go.

    80% of what was designated to be a Jewish state was taken away and for another Arab (Palestinian State) called Jordan.

    By saying such nonsense, you are effectively calling for Israel to cede Land Hashem gave us and create an indefensible Israel. As many of these so-called Palestinian readily admit, that it would be the first stage of destroying Israel and the murder of 7 million Jews.

    You are in effect advocating our destruction and murder. Shame on you.



    “The source of Arab hatred is British greed.”

    Sahih Al-Bukhari HadithHadith 4.392 Narrated byAbu Huraira

    While we were in the mosque, the Prophet came out and said, “Let us go to the Jews.”

    We went out till we reached Bait-ul-Midras.

    He said to them, “If you embrace Islam, you will be safe.

    You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to expel you from this land.

    So, if anyone amongst you owns some property, he is permitted to sell it, otherwise you should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle.”

    Sahih Al-Bukhari HadithHadith 9.77 & 9.447 Narrated byAbu Huraira

    While we were in the mosque, Allah’s Apostle came out to us and said, “Let us proceed to the Jews.” So we went along with him till we reached Bait-al-Midras (a place where the Torah used to be recited and all the Jews of the town used to gather).

    The Prophet stood up and addressed them, “O Assembly of Jews! Embrace Islam and you will be safe!”

    The Jews replied, “O Aba-l-Qasim! You have conveyed Allah’s message to us.” The Prophet said, “That is what I want (from you).”

    He repeated his first statement for the second time, and they said, “You have conveyed Allah’s message, O Aba-l-Qasim.”

    Then he said it for the third time and added, “You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to exile you from this land, so whoever among you owns some property, can sell it, otherwise you should know that the Earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle.” (See Hadith No. 392, Vol. 4), this is their religions oral tradition

    The Queen

    “The yidden don’t have to be the original inhabitants to have the rights to the land.”

    Learn Lech Lecha (13.15)

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