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  • #2077673
    Doing my best
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    Recently the right-wing media has been going on and on about a Russian invasion of Ukraine, but one must be warned, this is simply another right-wing disinformation effort.
    The Republican’s are attempting to blame Biden for causing worldwide instability with his so call “weak policy”. To this end they are working with President Vladimir Zelensky (Who to drum up nationalistic support for his failing government has been claiming for a while already that Russia has something against Ukraine)to stage all kind of false evidence of a massive invasion of Ukraine by Russia. This includes Fake footage of large Russian convoys, bombed out cities, and even mass killings of Ukrainian civilians by Russian troops. Unfortunately it seems like these malevolent right-wing actors have tricked even mainstream news stations to carry this as a genuine news item.
    Obviously I’m not coming from nowhere, there is a huge amount of evidence pointing to this being a scam. Every single picture or video of this “Conflict” look like they could have been made in Hollywood. Think about it, if a movie was made about a Russian invasion of Ukraine wouldn’t it look exactly like the footage we’ve been seeing?
    To find further proof of what I’m saying, all you need to do is watch the news from Russia based TV. They go through each picture and video of the supposed “atrocities” committed by Russia in Ukraine and find the mistakes made by the producers of these fake images.
    Unfortunately though, to hide this, big-tech has taken down all Russia-connected sources of news. Of course I was at first a little surprised that big-tech would go along with this misinformation and even promote it. However with recent events I understood what was happening, they were being blackmailed by the capitalistic-billionaire Elon Musk to block the truth. Twitter it seems, is being made into an example of what Elon can do.

    #2077688
    ☕️coffee addict
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    And 9/11 was also a hoax by Israel to drum up support for a war against the Arabs

    🙄🙄🙄🙄

    Boy do I have a bridge to sell you

    #2077726
    Kuvult
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    The Holocaust also didn’t happen! Doesn’t every footage of a Concentration Camp look like it could have come from a WWII movie?
    The job of Hollywood is to make it realistic but when they make it realistic it disproves the original event.
    If you went to Yeshiva please let me know which one so I don’t send my kids there to learn how to learn.

    #2077727
    2scents
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    Musk is a fictional character created by twitter to get attention.

    #2077768
    Gadolhadorah
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    Doing your best: Yup and all the media from far-right to far-left are all part of the conspiracy. The 4 million refugees flooding Eastern Europe are all hired actors. The rotting corpses in the streets are mannequins. Among many dumb posts about this tragic conflict, your words certainly rank among the highest.

    #2077783
    moishekapoieh
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    Russian propaganda has infected this forum

    #2077784
    Happy new year
    Participant

    Doing your best is doing his best to compare this Corona which really was a hoax, as we found out years later – but we knew all along.

    big difference, though, a war cant be staged – an invisible spiritual fictional virus – who can know if it’s real????

    #2077798
    Reb Eliezer
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    Ukraine destroys its own economy by 45% to look good.

    #2077805

    > Doing your best is doing his best to compare this Corona

    Increasing confusion and disbelief in facts accumulates and destroys fabric of the society. One interesting observation I saw is that Russians are using same channels and fake personas to propagate confusion about the war as they used to question masks and vaccines. In one funny moment in 2016, same facebook bot propagated info about a pro- and an anti-trump demonstration in NYC to ensure a proper confrontation.

    I don’t see this coupling here though: seems like people who question the war do not overlap much with those who question masks. I guess it means that we get this propaganda virus through long chains: most of us are not subscribed to RT “news” “reports”, but we hear it from someone who heard it from someone, so we all sure that we are all using info coming from “frum” sources. More generally, discussion style here is along the lines everywhere else in the media – throwing slogans, disregarding truth, disrespect to opponents – even if slightly elevated sometimes. That is what mentioned about Amalek that cooled the water for later enemies: you get desensitized to goyishe attitudes by seeing it everywhere and I don’t even see that people coming from more isolated communities behaving better. That is, we are all infected…

    #2077817
    Gadolhadorah
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    Chaylev: Do you really want to play dumb? Corona virus was real….there is legitimate debate over efficacy of masks, business closures, vaccines and anti-viral drugs and various public health strategies but the hundreds of thousands of Americans who died from Covid or covid-related illness are not some joke or figment of someone’s imagination. Hopefully, we will learn and not repeat mistakes going forward.

    #2077818
    2scents
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    Chaylev Halyah,

    “big difference, though, a war cant be staged – an invisible spiritual fictional virus – who can know if it’s real????”

    Are you claiming that all those people that allegedly died from the SARS Covid19 virus are really alive, they were just abducted and are living on some remote island?

    #2077827
    ymribiat
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    I think its wonderful that the Orthodox community is considered important and meaningful enough to merit its own agitprop.

    #2077864
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    I have barely been reading these war related threads but I thought he wrote this to illustrate the stupidity of Mdd’s posts, not for covid purposes

    #2077865
    Participant
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    Omg none of the posters realized op was satirical????

    #2077861
    Gadolhadorah
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    Ymribat: We have come a long way….it used to be just the usual home-grown trolls and the more recent trend of bored BHBs. Now we are getting some big-time attention. Mi kamocha CR!!

    #2077845
    ujm
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    I only read the OP but I see a bunch of comments thereafter. Did anyone actually take the OP seriously rather than understand that what the OP is attempting to convey is that everything Ukraine claims is true, anything that Biden says is Torah and whatever the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC, AP and Reuters “report” are verifiable facts?

    #2077878
    modern
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    We now have another voice: John Mearsheimer, known mostly for his shameless attacks on Israel and for conspiracy theories about the Israel Lobby having excessive influence, now blames the West for not adequately appeasing Putin.

    We have been down this road before. 🙁

    #2077925
    Reb Eliezer
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    #2077977
    Doing my best
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    To those who caught on, congrats!
    To those who didn’t, thanks for helping prove my point that there are way to many conspracy theories about everything under the sky nowadays.
    ujm,
    Don’t worry about me, I was mainly trying to poke fun at the conspiracy theorists in the CR who believe Ukraine is inventing atrocities to gain support. I actually consider myself more towards the right and don’t watch to much mainstream news besides Fox.

    #2077978
    Doing my best
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    And thank you GadolHadorah for “Among many dumb posts about this tragic conflict, your words certainly rank among the highest”, that’s exactly what I was going for.

    #2078423
    lakewhut
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    His policies are weak. He doesn’t do anything right

    #2078421

    John Mearsheimer was saying 5 years ago that Putin will not start a large war. He needs to eat his hat.

    #2078448
    Avi K
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    It’s no longer Purim.

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