I’ve gotten the feeling that (I am orthodox btw) many jews seem to think that they are entitled just because they are Jewish, so they act like it in public. They will make a scene in public, cause fights, and generally make a Chillul Hashem. I agree that we have been persecuted for many years, but why do we not put in more effort into making a kiddush Hashem? I was recently in an amusement park (Chol Hamoed Pesach) and saw a Chassidic family shouting at a gentile man about their spot on the line, while one of his kids was littering on the floor? that is not what we are supposed to be doing, yet many think that people are below them just because they are Jewish!
So what do you want to do to change that?
Or are you just going on the old soapbox?
I totally disagree. People act sometimes in disgusting ways because they are people. You shouldnt shout at people. You shouldnt degrade people. Everyone knows this — its hard to always live up to those standards. I agree that observant people should be better — but again — “people are people.”
I wasn’t there, but maybe the gentile cut the line, and so the chossid yelled at him. That would be his right.
The fact that his child was littering is irrelevant. Try stopping your kids from throwing their empty bag of pretzels on the ground. Good luck. Make them pick it up, yes.
I’m not sure what is so dramatic here
But isn’t the whole point that we spend our whole lives trying to work on ourselves so that we do not give the impression that we are better than everyone? we are held more liable when we do things wrong, so ‘we are people’ should not fly.
Would you make generalizations about any ethnic group you see doing something you don’t find right, or do you only discriminate against sub-groups of Jews who are more frum than you and thereby make you feel uncomfortable and inadequate?
Neville, the issue is about identifiable Jews acting poorly. Anonymous Jews don’t pose the same problem.
Also, how could could any udentifiable Chasid make a real Jew feel inadequate?
“Also, how could could any udentifiable Chasid make a real Jew feel inadequate?”
By existing and being more frum than you. You look to find fault in him to lift up yourself.