There's Beer In The Cholent!

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  • #608124
    takahmamash
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    My daughter came up to me while I was on the computer and handed me a bottle (1/3 full) of Stella Artois.

    “Ema said you can have this,” she said.

    I asked, “Where’s the rest of it?”

    “In the cholent.”

    I am so looking forward to lunch tomorrow.

    #929282
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Lunch? You call the heilige seudas Shabbos lunch? You must be modern orthodox! </ hyperbolic, sarcastic, fanatical rant>

    I tried that once (beer in the cholent). It took a while, but I’ve b”H since been able to restore sholom bayis.

    #929283
    BaalHabooze
    Participant

    tsk tsk, A waste of a good beer. beer is beer, chulent is chulent. best not to mix the two. And of course, always remember,

    Don’t drink and dive.

    No, seriously. I totally missed the pool. Whatever…

    #929284
    yehudayona
    Participant

    Of course, all the alcohol will have evaporated.

    #929285
    rebdoniel
    Member

    Beer lends a nice flavor to cholent. I also like a little bbq sauce, a ton of fried onions, garlic, paprika, and smoked salami, in addition to chulent fleisch, onion soup mix, etc.

    #929286
    Git Meshige
    Participant

    Daay Yochid, who do you think is better in Hashems eyes, the one that calls Shabbos Seuda “lunch” but does not cheat and steal or talk loshon hora and makes machlokes, or the one that calls it ” Seuda” but does all of the above? Stop focusing on the petty issues and worry about the serious ones

    #929287
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    GM,

    I was joking. But thanks anyhow.

    #929288
    achosid
    Participant

    As long as its Rolling Rock….bring it on!

    #929289
    WIY
    Member

    achosid

    Rolling rock isn’t beer. Stella is beer.

    #929290
    takahmamash
    Participant

    It turns out that the Stella Artois was in the cholent, but my wife had a bottle of Samuel Adams for me to drink, along with a frosted glass. She’s so good to me, B”H!

    (The leftover cholent is waiting for me for melava malka now, so off I go!)

    Shavua tov!

    Chodesh tov!

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    #929291
    daniela
    Member

    Dear daughter of takahmamash,

    kol hakavod, but really, we don’t put beer in the cholent: whisky is much better, and in Adar we should increase joy. During Pesach I advise plums liquor, because cachaca is too sweet. Shavua Tov, Chodesh Tov!

    #929292
    rebdoniel
    Member

    I wish I had a steaming bowl of cholent on a day like today, with some kishka and at least 3 kinds of kugel and deli.

    We had a healthier shabbos lunch 🙁

    #929293

    So what’s wrong with healthy? Healthy can be delicious too. Even cholent and kishka and kugel can be healthy.

    #929294
    WIY
    Member

    “Even cholent and kishka and kugel can be healthy.”

    Good luck finding people who will want to eat a healthy cholent kishka and kugel!

    #929295
    WIY
    Member

    Mah Zeh Shabbos “lunch?”

    #929296

    Healthy does not have to taste bad! It is easy to make cholent and kugel healthy and no one will know the difference. Kishka is significantly more difficult, but not impossible.

    #929297
    ThePurpleOne
    Member

    only boys like unhealthy chulent kugel and kishke.. girls like it healthy and good… and whoohoo i luv fri nt cholent.. my fam dus it every week now.. just a tad complicated w the whole keep holding it w oven mit thing cuz of bishul..

    #929298

    I know boys who like healthy food and girls who like unhealthy food, as well as many people of both genders who appreciate both.

    Friday night cholent is an interesting idea. How do you keep it from burning since the crockpot stays on for all of Shabbos? Or do you make it in a Dutch oven instead?

    #929299
    ThePurpleOne
    Member

    its rlly commen.. so my mother makes it earlier than usual so its ready at like 10 but i think she adds extra water to the crock pot right be4 shabbos.. cuz i think accordinf 2 halacha the meat has to be cooked be4 shabbos.. correct me if im wrong peeps!! but ya u cud do it in a crock pot or in a pot on the stove on a blech.. and whats a dutch oven? sounds cool!! theres r a lil tricky halachos tho.. like u gotta keep holding the crock pot and someone else has to dish it out quick!! cuz its rlly hot..

    #929300

    Cool, I’ll have to try it 🙂

    A Dutch oven is just a large pot.

    #929301
    rebdoniel
    Member

    We eat vegetarian chulent and kishka sometimes, but the only thing healthier about that is less cholesterol, but it has more carbs. It still uses booze, a healthy amount of oil (albeit good-for-you oil), but it’s heavy on processed fake meats.

    #929302
    takahmamash
    Participant

    Our cholent is also vegetarian, as my wife and one daughter are vegan-this way, everyone can eat it (though she does not add the processed fake meat).

    I never understood the Friday night cholent thing. People eat a full meal, and they still want cholent afterwards? I mean, if that’s what they want, fine, but I couldn’t do it myself; too full after the heiliger first seudat Shabbat.

    #929303
    twisted
    Participant

    takamamash, the processed fake meat is likely from tofu

    tofu is from soy

    rov soy, thanks to Dows and Monsantos of the world, is gmo.

    And Friday night, is when the spices and additives (really important in veggie chulent) are at their peak flavor.

    #929304
    ThePurpleOne
    Member

    takahmamesh-

    boy u make us sound like pigs.. the point is u just eat normally by the meal then 3 hours later have half a bowl of chulent..

    #929305

    Vegetarian cholent does not have to have processed fake meat, or alcohol, or tons of oil. I make it with vegetarian baked beans, barley, potatoes, fancy mustard, BBQ sauce, seasoning, and pareve kishka.

    #929306
    takahmamash
    Participant

    ThePurpleOne:

    boy u make us sound like pigs.. the point is u just eat normally by the meal then 3 hours later have half a bowl of chulent..

    I’ve seen the way some of these boys eat chulent at Friday night shule learning, and they’re not taking half a bowl. It’s also not a healthy thing to be eating heavy food that late at night.

    However, I also said “I can’t do it.” My kids never did either, and still don’t as far as I know. If others want to do so, ess gezunderheit!

    #929307
    golfer
    Participant

    Miss Purple, “peeps” has not answered your question so I will. Hope that’s ok. Yes, according to halacha the meat has to be cooked before Shabbos. Not totally cooked but more than half cooked and edible (exact amount of “cooked” can vary and this is Hilchos Shabbos we’re talking about, so it doesn’t have to be cooked to a super soft falling off the bone doneness, but it should be cooked.) This does not apply only to the meat; it’s any food you”ll be leaving to cook on the blech. So if you are suddenly inspired to add half a cup of beans or a raw potato to the chulnt on your way to light candles- Don’t!

    #929308
    rebdoniel
    Member

    I make a really good chili for shabbos also- onions, green peppers, tomatoes, garlic, Morningstar crumbles, veggie chorizo, beans, jalapeno, chipotle, unsweetened cocoa powder, cilantro, brown sugar, Dos Equis, and a bunch of spices. Goes well with corn chips and with sour cream, pico de gallo, and cheddar cheese (I hold that cheese could be melted on shabbat as long as it is not done at yad soledet bo, which is how Hakham Ovadia Yosef holds regarding melting cheese on shabbat). While I enjoy Jameson with my chulent, tequila goes well with the chili/Mexican chulent.

    #929309

    Where can you find kosher vegetarian chorizo?

    #929310
    rebdoniel
    Member

    I see it all the time with a KSA hechsher- Soyrizo brand. Lightlife also has a hechsher, and both are strictly parve. I’ve purchased it at ShopRite in Brooklyn, Shaw’s and Hannaford’s in the Boston area, and at Whole Foods in the city.

    #929311
    ThePurpleOne
    Member

    golfer-

    toda rabs!!

    rebdoniel-

    omg u cook soo gourmet!! mayb when im all grown up thats what ill cook.. bt isnt chilli w ground meat?? cuz that wudnt go so dandy w cheese, now wud it?

    #929312
    golfer
    Participant

    Miss Purple, you are sweet!

    I realize there is a certain member of the grammar police wishing to have your form of English banned from the CR. But for my part, I’m touched. I don’t think anybody ever told me “toda rabs” before!

    Bevakasha!

    #929313
    ThePurpleOne
    Member

    aww u made my day!! esp w wiy and haifa being oh so sweet abt it…

    #929314
    takahmamash
    Participant

    There’s an older version of “toda rabs” that we used to say as teenagers – it was “toads.”

    #929315
    rebdoniel
    Member

    The Purple One,

    Yes I do like to cook gourmet. I generally use treif recipes and adapt them for kosher cooking.

    I use a product in a lot of my dishes called Morningstar Farms meatless crumbles. They are a vegetarian ground meat substitute made from soy and are certified OK-Dairy.

    Aside from chili, I make Swedish meatballs, “Beef” Stroganoff, Lasagna/Baked Ziti, American Chop Suey (a New England dish), Shepherd’s Pie, and many other dishes with the crumbles.

    #929316
    ThePurpleOne
    Member

    rebdoniel-

    wow u hav got some patience there!! u shud open up a restaurunt!! not kiddin..

    takahmamesh-

    cool i never heard of it.. thanx 4 informing me mayb ill use it one day.. 😉

    #929317
    WIY
    Member

    rebdoniel

    Why would you use a dairy meat substitute instead of meat?!

    #929318
    ThePurpleOne
    Member

    if hes using it with cheese or milk??

    #929319
    SaysMe
    Member

    takahmamash- todes is old?? I’m not old, am i?? Maybe i am… Shucks

    #929320
    takahmamash
    Participant

    SaysMe:

    takahmamash- todes is old?? I’m not old, am i?? Maybe i am… Shucks

    When I say we used it when I was a teenager, I mean in the mid- to late 1970s, so we’re talking about 30+ years ago. I don’t know if that makes you old, but my kids assure me that I am old!

    #929321
    rebdoniel
    Member

    Fake meat tastes a lot better than fake cheese, hence my copious use of meat substitutes (which are really hezkat halavi, not dairy, as the OK labels them, in actuality).

    #929322
    SaysMe
    Member

    takahmamash- it’s still in use today! 🙂

    #929323
    gotbeer
    Member

    Beer gives a good flavor

    #929324
    gotbeer
    Member

    gotbeer

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