February 8, 2013 1:27 pm at 1:27 pm #608124
My daughter came up to me while I was on the computer and handed me a bottle (1/3 full) of Stella Artois.
“Ema said you can have this,” she said.
I asked, “Where’s the rest of it?”
“In the cholent.”
I am so looking forward to lunch tomorrow.February 8, 2013 2:39 pm at 2:39 pm #929282☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
Lunch? You call the heilige seudas Shabbos lunch? You must be modern orthodox! </ hyperbolic, sarcastic, fanatical rant>
I tried that once (beer in the cholent). It took a while, but I’ve b”H since been able to restore sholom bayis.February 8, 2013 3:59 pm at 3:59 pm #929283BaalHaboozeParticipant
tsk tsk, A waste of a good beer. beer is beer, chulent is chulent. best not to mix the two. And of course, always remember,
Don’t drink and dive.
No, seriously. I totally missed the pool. Whatever…February 8, 2013 4:44 pm at 4:44 pm #929284yehudayonaParticipant
Of course, all the alcohol will have evaporated.February 8, 2013 5:05 pm at 5:05 pm #929285
Beer lends a nice flavor to cholent. I also like a little bbq sauce, a ton of fried onions, garlic, paprika, and smoked salami, in addition to chulent fleisch, onion soup mix, etc.February 8, 2013 5:45 pm at 5:45 pm #929286Git MeshigeParticipant
Daay Yochid, who do you think is better in Hashems eyes, the one that calls Shabbos Seuda “lunch” but does not cheat and steal or talk loshon hora and makes machlokes, or the one that calls it ” Seuda” but does all of the above? Stop focusing on the petty issues and worry about the serious onesFebruary 8, 2013 7:41 pm at 7:41 pm #929287☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
I was joking. But thanks anyhow.February 8, 2013 8:28 pm at 8:28 pm #929288achosidParticipant
As long as its Rolling Rock….bring it on!February 8, 2013 9:05 pm at 9:05 pm #929289
Rolling rock isn’t beer. Stella is beer.February 9, 2013 6:14 pm at 6:14 pm #929290
It turns out that the Stella Artois was in the cholent, but my wife had a bottle of Samuel Adams for me to drink, along with a frosted glass. She’s so good to me, B”H!
(The leftover cholent is waiting for me for melava malka now, so off I go!)
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Dear daughter of takahmamash,
kol hakavod, but really, we don’t put beer in the cholent: whisky is much better, and in Adar we should increase joy. During Pesach I advise plums liquor, because cachaca is too sweet. Shavua Tov, Chodesh Tov!February 10, 2013 12:06 am at 12:06 am #929292
I wish I had a steaming bowl of cholent on a day like today, with some kishka and at least 3 kinds of kugel and deli.
We had a healthier shabbos lunch 🙁February 10, 2013 12:40 am at 12:40 am #929293
So what’s wrong with healthy? Healthy can be delicious too. Even cholent and kishka and kugel can be healthy.February 10, 2013 1:45 am at 1:45 am #929294
“Even cholent and kishka and kugel can be healthy.”
Good luck finding people who will want to eat a healthy cholent kishka and kugel!February 10, 2013 1:52 am at 1:52 am #929295
Mah Zeh Shabbos “lunch?”February 10, 2013 4:29 am at 4:29 am #929296
Healthy does not have to taste bad! It is easy to make cholent and kugel healthy and no one will know the difference. Kishka is significantly more difficult, but not impossible.February 10, 2013 4:50 am at 4:50 am #929297
only boys like unhealthy chulent kugel and kishke.. girls like it healthy and good… and whoohoo i luv fri nt cholent.. my fam dus it every week now.. just a tad complicated w the whole keep holding it w oven mit thing cuz of bishul..February 10, 2013 5:09 am at 5:09 am #929298
I know boys who like healthy food and girls who like unhealthy food, as well as many people of both genders who appreciate both.
Friday night cholent is an interesting idea. How do you keep it from burning since the crockpot stays on for all of Shabbos? Or do you make it in a Dutch oven instead?February 10, 2013 6:17 am at 6:17 am #929299
its rlly commen.. so my mother makes it earlier than usual so its ready at like 10 but i think she adds extra water to the crock pot right be4 shabbos.. cuz i think accordinf 2 halacha the meat has to be cooked be4 shabbos.. correct me if im wrong peeps!! but ya u cud do it in a crock pot or in a pot on the stove on a blech.. and whats a dutch oven? sounds cool!! theres r a lil tricky halachos tho.. like u gotta keep holding the crock pot and someone else has to dish it out quick!! cuz its rlly hot..February 10, 2013 6:50 am at 6:50 am #929300
Cool, I’ll have to try it 🙂
A Dutch oven is just a large pot.February 10, 2013 7:19 am at 7:19 am #929301
We eat vegetarian chulent and kishka sometimes, but the only thing healthier about that is less cholesterol, but it has more carbs. It still uses booze, a healthy amount of oil (albeit good-for-you oil), but it’s heavy on processed fake meats.February 10, 2013 9:10 am at 9:10 am #929302
Our cholent is also vegetarian, as my wife and one daughter are vegan-this way, everyone can eat it (though she does not add the processed fake meat).
I never understood the Friday night cholent thing. People eat a full meal, and they still want cholent afterwards? I mean, if that’s what they want, fine, but I couldn’t do it myself; too full after the heiliger first seudat Shabbat.February 10, 2013 2:51 pm at 2:51 pm #929303twistedParticipant
takamamash, the processed fake meat is likely from tofu
tofu is from soy
rov soy, thanks to Dows and Monsantos of the world, is gmo.
And Friday night, is when the spices and additives (really important in veggie chulent) are at their peak flavor.February 10, 2013 3:38 pm at 3:38 pm #929304
boy u make us sound like pigs.. the point is u just eat normally by the meal then 3 hours later have half a bowl of chulent..February 10, 2013 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm #929305
Vegetarian cholent does not have to have processed fake meat, or alcohol, or tons of oil. I make it with vegetarian baked beans, barley, potatoes, fancy mustard, BBQ sauce, seasoning, and pareve kishka.February 10, 2013 5:28 pm at 5:28 pm #929306
boy u make us sound like pigs.. the point is u just eat normally by the meal then 3 hours later have half a bowl of chulent..
I’ve seen the way some of these boys eat chulent at Friday night shule learning, and they’re not taking half a bowl. It’s also not a healthy thing to be eating heavy food that late at night.
However, I also said “I can’t do it.” My kids never did either, and still don’t as far as I know. If others want to do so, ess gezunderheit!February 10, 2013 5:31 pm at 5:31 pm #929307golferParticipant
Miss Purple, “peeps” has not answered your question so I will. Hope that’s ok. Yes, according to halacha the meat has to be cooked before Shabbos. Not totally cooked but more than half cooked and edible (exact amount of “cooked” can vary and this is Hilchos Shabbos we’re talking about, so it doesn’t have to be cooked to a super soft falling off the bone doneness, but it should be cooked.) This does not apply only to the meat; it’s any food you”ll be leaving to cook on the blech. So if you are suddenly inspired to add half a cup of beans or a raw potato to the chulnt on your way to light candles- Don’t!February 10, 2013 8:18 pm at 8:18 pm #929308
I make a really good chili for shabbos also- onions, green peppers, tomatoes, garlic, Morningstar crumbles, veggie chorizo, beans, jalapeno, chipotle, unsweetened cocoa powder, cilantro, brown sugar, Dos Equis, and a bunch of spices. Goes well with corn chips and with sour cream, pico de gallo, and cheddar cheese (I hold that cheese could be melted on shabbat as long as it is not done at yad soledet bo, which is how Hakham Ovadia Yosef holds regarding melting cheese on shabbat). While I enjoy Jameson with my chulent, tequila goes well with the chili/Mexican chulent.February 10, 2013 8:23 pm at 8:23 pm #929309
Where can you find kosher vegetarian chorizo?February 10, 2013 9:00 pm at 9:00 pm #929310
I see it all the time with a KSA hechsher- Soyrizo brand. Lightlife also has a hechsher, and both are strictly parve. I’ve purchased it at ShopRite in Brooklyn, Shaw’s and Hannaford’s in the Boston area, and at Whole Foods in the city.February 11, 2013 2:12 am at 2:12 am #929311
omg u cook soo gourmet!! mayb when im all grown up thats what ill cook.. bt isnt chilli w ground meat?? cuz that wudnt go so dandy w cheese, now wud it?February 11, 2013 2:45 am at 2:45 am #929312golferParticipant
Miss Purple, you are sweet!
I realize there is a certain member of the grammar police wishing to have your form of English banned from the CR. But for my part, I’m touched. I don’t think anybody ever told me “toda rabs” before!
Bevakasha!February 11, 2013 3:59 am at 3:59 am #929313
aww u made my day!! esp w wiy and haifa being oh so sweet abt it…February 11, 2013 9:24 am at 9:24 am #929314
There’s an older version of “toda rabs” that we used to say as teenagers – it was “toads.”February 11, 2013 4:11 pm at 4:11 pm #929315
The Purple One,
Yes I do like to cook gourmet. I generally use treif recipes and adapt them for kosher cooking.
I use a product in a lot of my dishes called Morningstar Farms meatless crumbles. They are a vegetarian ground meat substitute made from soy and are certified OK-Dairy.
Aside from chili, I make Swedish meatballs, “Beef” Stroganoff, Lasagna/Baked Ziti, American Chop Suey (a New England dish), Shepherd’s Pie, and many other dishes with the crumbles.February 11, 2013 11:13 pm at 11:13 pm #929316
wow u hav got some patience there!! u shud open up a restaurunt!! not kiddin..
cool i never heard of it.. thanx 4 informing me mayb ill use it one day.. 😉February 12, 2013 12:16 am at 12:16 am #929317
Why would you use a dairy meat substitute instead of meat?!February 12, 2013 12:32 am at 12:32 am #929318
if hes using it with cheese or milk??February 12, 2013 6:57 am at 6:57 am #929319SaysMeMember
takahmamash- todes is old?? I’m not old, am i?? Maybe i am… ShucksFebruary 12, 2013 8:55 am at 8:55 am #929320
takahmamash- todes is old?? I’m not old, am i?? Maybe i am… Shucks
When I say we used it when I was a teenager, I mean in the mid- to late 1970s, so we’re talking about 30+ years ago. I don’t know if that makes you old, but my kids assure me that I am old!February 12, 2013 6:35 pm at 6:35 pm #929321
Fake meat tastes a lot better than fake cheese, hence my copious use of meat substitutes (which are really hezkat halavi, not dairy, as the OK labels them, in actuality).February 12, 2013 6:44 pm at 6:44 pm #929322SaysMeMember
takahmamash- it’s still in use today! 🙂February 13, 2013 3:47 am at 3:47 am #929323gotbeerMember
Beer gives a good flavorFebruary 13, 2013 4:18 am at 4:18 am #929324gotbeerMember
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