Things that are NOT avoda zara
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July 18, 2014 12:27 am at 12:27 am #613239
Is there anything?July 18, 2014 12:43 am at 12:43 am #1023832
Sam2July 18, 2014 12:52 am at 12:52 am #1023833klein vikayamMember
hashemJuly 18, 2014 12:56 am at 12:56 am #1023834
DY: I am very much an Avodah Zarah. There are plenty of people who worship me (I can’t decide just how not-serious I’m being here).July 18, 2014 1:14 am at 1:14 am #1023835☕️coffee addictParticipant
HashemJuly 18, 2014 1:40 am at 1:40 am #1023836
I said things.July 18, 2014 2:08 am at 2:08 am #1023837
Sam, I’m not mekabel. You’d be assur b’hana’ah, and I wouldn’t be allowed to read and enjoy your posts, and I’m not choshed that you’d be machshil me.July 18, 2014 2:15 am at 2:15 am #1023838
DY: I would not be Assur B’hana’ah. I don’t worship myself and Ain Adam Oser Davar She’Eino Shelo. So you can believe me and still enjoy my posts. You could read them to make fun of them even if they were A”Z though, so that’s fine.July 18, 2014 2:18 am at 2:18 am #1023839klein vikayamMember
reb yidd, hashem is not a person, so technically, he is a thingJuly 18, 2014 2:29 am at 2:29 am #1023840
“Thing” does not mean nonperson.July 18, 2014 2:30 am at 2:30 am #1023841
I just knew you’d find a way to shlug me up. 🙂
Is ??? ??? ???? ??? ????? ??? davka, or does it actually mean ??? ??? ???? ??? ?? ????, in which case, it wouldn’t apply to you unless you were an ??? ??????July 18, 2014 3:35 am at 3:35 am #1023842
DY: It wouldn’t apply to an Eved K’na’ani either, I assume. A person might have a Kinyan on the E”K but he is not fully “his” in the sense that he has absolute R’shus over him. The “human being-ness”, for lack of a better term, of the E”K still belongs to himself (on a related note, see the Sugya in Gittin about a person who is Mafkir his E”K but died before giving a Shtar Shichrur), which is why the Adon cannot permanently damage him.
See also Chullin 40a for a related topic.July 18, 2014 3:49 am at 3:49 am #1023843YW Moderator-42Moderator
My wine which I drink in moderation.July 18, 2014 3:56 am at 3:56 am #1023844
42: It might not be Avodah Zarah, but I’m certain we can find a way to make it Yein Nesech. (Retroactively, obviously; we could make it Yein Nesech by, you know, being Menasech it, but where’s the fun in that?)July 18, 2014 8:18 am at 8:18 am #1023845IvduEsHashemBsimchaParticipant
I suppose this is a trick question, because almost anything can be an A.Z. if someone worships it, but inherently, Hello Kitty is not an A.Z.
Mod 42: Do I smell a pun?July 18, 2014 2:35 pm at 2:35 pm #1023846HaLeiViParticipant
Sam, but according to Sefer Chassidim (198) we’d have to be Mechanne Shem.
Anyhow, to answer the question, the earth, mountains, heaven, sun and company is not, and cannot become, AZ.July 18, 2014 2:47 pm at 2:47 pm #1023847
HaLeiVi: Which question is that answering?July 18, 2014 4:04 pm at 4:04 pm #1023848HaLeiViParticipant
First paragraph is about you, second paragraph is answering the OP. Also, Daniel lost out for being worshipped.July 18, 2014 4:28 pm at 4:28 pm #1023849
HaLeiVi: Ah, true. Fair enough. I thought you were saying V’lo HeHarim Eloheihem as to why a person can’t be A”Z. That didn’t make sense.
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