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    Feif Un
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    Someone told me the other day that he heard something shocking from a Rosh Yeshiva in my area. Apparently, someone in the kollel there was talking to the RY about labor and childbirth, and the RY told him not to let his wife use an epidural for the pain. Why? He said that painful childbirth was part of the curse Hashem gave to Chava, and it’s not for us to try and bypass it.

    Honestly, that has to be one of the weirdest things I’ve ever heard. Has anyone else ever heard of anything like it?

    #757821
    tomim tihye
    Member

    This was (maybe) told to a specific person in a specific context, and you were not that person. Right? So forgetting about it.

    #757822
    s2021
    Member

    Sounds like “broken telephone”

    Dont believe everything u hear.

    #757823

    I once saw it in a secular pregnancy book. Haven’t heard it from Rabbonim though.

    Even with an epidural the process is not painless. Being numb, emotional roller-coaster etc is not conidered pain-free, like a regular Monday afternoon. Why shouldn’t we seek to minimize pain? “Hani kivshi d’rachmana lama lach?”. Not arguing, just asking and possibly explaining all the poskim who haven’t assusred this.

    #757824
    bpt
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    You heard sort of right. What the RY said is that HE should not get an epidural to ease the pain he is about to experience. That way he can share in the kapporah for the chait.

    (no, not the pain of childbirth; the pain Mr.father-to-be is going to feel when Mrs 9th month-er rips out his kishkes and shoves it down his throat.)

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