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April 24, 2011 7:18 pm at 7:18 pm #596449Dovid HaMelechMember
What time is the latest I can recite Tikun Chatzos?April 24, 2011 8:27 pm at 8:27 pm #861063ZeesKiteParticipant
Is your question directed at a certain poster?April 24, 2011 8:33 pm at 8:33 pm #861064Dovid HaMelechMember
No.April 24, 2011 10:26 pm at 10:26 pm #861065
Good, because I don’t know. I actually chose this username because it seems to be a rarely used term.
BTW, there is a yeshiva in Israel called Kollel Chatzot (if you google it, you should be able to find it). Apparently they 60 men that arrive there are midnight to mourn.April 24, 2011 10:37 pm at 10:37 pm #861066WolfishMusingsParticipant
arrive there are midnight to mourn.
I assume you mean “morn” not “mourn.”
The WolfApril 24, 2011 11:37 pm at 11:37 pm #861067
Actually, I didn’t, BUT they are both are correct.
They arrive at midnight to “mourn” the destruction of the temple. But they then study until “morn”ing.April 24, 2011 11:52 pm at 11:52 pm #861068YW Moderator-42Moderator
I thought he did mean “mourn”. Isn’t tikun hatzos mourning for the Beis Hamikdash.
The rest of his sentence is messed up so it is hard to read. It could be read either way:
Apparently there are 60 men that arrive there at midnight to mourn.
Apparently there are 60 men that arrive there midnight to morning.April 25, 2011 12:19 am at 12:19 am #861069
Sorry, the sentence was messed up.
Yes, it’s a time mourning over the destruction of the Beit HaMikdash.April 26, 2011 2:14 am at 2:14 am #861070shuniParticipant
There’s different traditions of when is the right time to recite tikkun chatzot. The Baal Sefer Hamidos states the correct the time as 6 hours after nightfall, whenever nightfall happens, and not necessarily in the middle of the night. (Others go for the middle of the night). If a person finds it difficult to get up then, they would be advised by the same author to start it later such as at 3am. It would seem that if one did not recite it by daybreak then it would be too late. Kol hakavod for wanting to do tikkun chatzot, the seforim explain that all the kedusha of putting on tefillin comes from the avoda one does from chatzot onwards.
a yerushalmi yidApril 27, 2011 3:16 am at 3:16 am #861071
Hi, Shuni, can you explain what it means when you said “…all the kedusha of putting on tefillin comes from the avoda one does from chatzot onwards.”April 27, 2011 3:46 am at 3:46 am #861072ItcheSrulikMember
Any time from chatzos halaylah till alos hashachar. The correct way to do it is to do as it says in Shulchan Aruch (Orach CHaim 1) i.e. to get up at chatzos and stay up the rest of the night. (The tikkun isn’t mentioned there, only getting up)April 27, 2011 4:23 am at 4:23 am #861073WolfishMusingsParticipant
My apologies then. I’m sorry that I mixed up your statement. I shall try not to do it again.
The WolfApril 27, 2011 7:21 pm at 7:21 pm #861074
Wolf – Don’t worry, there was no issue with you correcting the statement that I said. It was actually my fault, since my last sentence had an issue with the wording that didn’t make sense.March 19, 2012 1:55 pm at 1:55 pm #861075avhabenParticipant
Considering that Shulchan Aruch says to say Tikun Chatzos, why isn’t everyone (actually almost no one?) saying it (at midnight or at all)?March 19, 2012 7:10 pm at 7:10 pm #861076yitayningwutParticipant
The Shulchan Aruch doesn’t say to say Tikkun Chatzos.March 19, 2012 7:49 pm at 7:49 pm #861077avhabenParticipant
What does it say about it?March 19, 2012 8:53 pm at 8:53 pm #861078nitpickerParticipant
I think tkkun chatzos has become less common because we do not go to sleep early evening any longer.March 19, 2012 9:19 pm at 9:19 pm #861079ItcheSrulikMember
yitayningwut: Right you are. It says when people should get up to “be mischanen” not that they have to or what they should say. My other post was misleading. A number of sefarim (including halakha ones like mishneh torah) mention getting up at midnight.
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