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  • #656468

    goody613
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    u ever read behind the mask (chaim walder)

    #656469

    SJSinNYC
    Member

    Moish, your family is lucky to have you to save them ๐Ÿ˜€

    I do know a lot of non-fakers, but you do have to pick through the fakers. Just realize, that fakers exist in all societies, not just Judaism – you just cannot escape it.

    #656470

    moish01
    Member

    ha goody i think i did. about some faker guy who lied his way through life and then messed it up? i didn’t even mean it to that extent. i meant that they’re just plain old blank, dumb, people (even if they can get a 100 on a test)

    i sincerely feel bad for their kids. who knows what i would have done with stupid parents. (i can guarantee you there’s a 95% chance i’d be a druggie… who wouldn’t wanna zone out in that situation??)

    #656472

    moish01
    Member

    sjs – you make me feel like such a tzaddik. i mean i AM doing all this l’shaim shomayim… for their sakes…

    #656473

    SJSinNYC
    Member

    What do you mean for their sakes?

    #656474

    moish01
    Member

    oh just so that they have some meaning in their lives. so i get to have fun and be a bum so that they could grow from it. awesome plan, don’t you think?

    #656476

    mazal77
    Participant

    No one mentioned the book “Praying with Fire” The Second book just came out also. I’ve read the first one and very inspiring insights are to be found in this book.

    #656479

    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    maybe cynicism (and having been hit too hard) is what makes a person perceive others as ‘fakers’…

    #656480

    moish01
    Member

    am i cynical?? i never thought i was… you got me thinking here

    #656481

    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    I said MAYBE… and I never mentioned you, just threw it out there as an open thought. I do not know you well enough to say what exactly you’re all about and what makes you tick.

    #656482

    Belev Echad
    Participant

    moish, you’re cracking me up!

    #656484

    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    what’s so funny? i hate to miss a good joke

    #656486

    goody613
    Member

    what i find most effetive is waiting a few min. b4 and then concentrating on the meaning.

    random sheilah: is waiting b4 shemoneh esreh considered a hefsek between goal yisroel and shemoneh esreh?

    #656487

    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    I am not paskening

    I don’t think it’s a hefsek as long as you do not motion, talk or move around. If you are just standing at your place waiting to start, but need a minute to concentrate…

    #656488

    goody613
    Member

    thanx

    #656489

    kapusta
    Participant

    but there is probably a difference between a minute and a few minutes ๐Ÿ™‚

    #656490

    goody613
    Member

    I don’t think so b/c youre allowed to stop in middle of shemoneh esreh to regain your conversation

    #656491

    an open book
    Participant

    do you mean concentration?

    #656492

    anonymisss
    Participant

    goody, conversation or concentration????

    ~a~

    #656493

    kapusta
    Participant

    same thing actually you can stop to increase concentration in your conversation with Hashem

    goody I never knew that…thanks for letting me know

    ๐Ÿ™‚

    #656494

    an open book
    Participant

    i guess, but it sounds funny, like you can take a few minutes to resume conversation with your friend. but i know what you mean

    #656495

    goody613
    Member

    oops i meant concentration

    #656496

    torahtziva
    Member

    goody613: Close your eyes during shemoneh esray.

    #656497

    an open book
    Participant

    then you might get confused with the words though

    #656498

    moish01
    Member

    seriously, purim is tonight and tomorrow. i’m gonna feel like such a rat if i can’t/don’t daven.

    #656499

    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    you can start out by davening, begging Hashem to help you daven properly. It sounds like you do want to, so that’s for real, and it’ll feel good

    #656500

    kapusta
    Participant

    everyone say chaf beis today? see my post on the general shmooze thread

    #656501

    moish01
    Member

    i guess so.

    too disconnected, though.

    #656502

    an open book
    Participant

    kapusta: i knew about that, but i forgot ๐Ÿ™

    moish01: c’mon, just start. you don’t have to start out aiming to say every little thing.

    #656503

    anonymisss
    Participant

    I said it. Thank you, kapusta, for letting us know about it.

    ~a~

    #656504

    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    an open book

    Member

    moish01: c’mon, just start. you don’t have to start out aiming to say every little thing.

    well said. Start with the basics… but don’t forget your commitment to saying modeh ani.

    (Feeling overwhelmed by taking on a few things at once? Now you see why you need to get each small thing down pat before moving on. Creating a good habit is not so bad; get used to saying modeh ani.)

    #656505

    moish01
    Member

    ok, areivim, i didn’t forget. happy? i have been saying it. not like it makes a huge difference.

    you’re driving me nuts trying to appeal to my conscience. it really kills me.

    #656506

    an open book
    Participant

    ๐Ÿ™‚ you & 1 other person are making my day ๐Ÿ™‚

    #656508

    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    moish, you’re not doing this for ME!… I have no more koiyach to argue this point.

    Please keep us posted on your progress, or even lack thereof (you are not acting like a sucker by doing this!!)

    #656509

    moish01
    Member

    oh i know i’m not doing it for you. but i feel like i have you checking up on me. when are report cards? as much as i don’t get an aleph for the teacher, i sure hate to fail…

    #656510

    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    if you would only know how many times I held myself back from ‘checking on you’… ๐Ÿ˜‰

    I’m really not checking, I’m just concerned and reminding you is all ๐Ÿ™‚

    “as much as i don’t get an aleph for the teacher”- huh?

    PS- you’re far from a failing student

    #656511

    moish01
    Member

    ha how would you know if i fail?? course i do – i haven’t opened a gemara in forever. i guess i wouldn’t call it “failing” – more like “incomplete.”

    #656512

    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    i’m talkin bout failing in my book… and Hashem’s

    #656513

    moish,

    a guy who fasted on taanis esther and went to mincha/maariv recently aint no failing student. sorry.

    #656514

    moish01
    Member

    charlie, i didn’t “go” anywhere for mincha/maariv. just by the way. and i’m not sure why i fasted… feels really strange now actually.

    areivim, a “C” is worse than an “incomplete” in my opinion.

    #656515

    moish01
    Member

    oh no – you’re gonna kill me for that last one

    #656516

    kapusta
    Participant

    moish an incomplete means someone doesnt care enough to do an assignment, not incapable ๐Ÿ™‚

    #656517

    moish01
    Member

    i know. that’s why i’d rather no mark at all than a bad mark.

    #656518

    kapusta
    Participant

    yeah but you cant pass the term until you finish up all the work ๐Ÿ™‚

    #656519

    moish01
    Member

    ok, so i won’t get promoted to the next grade. that’s why we drop out ๐Ÿ˜‰

    #656520

    moish01
    Member

    kapusta, you’re so lazy you won’t read a comment if the pages are messed up? wow.

    #656521

    kapusta
    Participant

    moish you dropped out? didnt know that ๐Ÿ™‚ and where on earth did you get that idea? ๐Ÿ™‚

    #656522

    moish01
    Member

    me?? ha that’s funny – i haven’t been to school in forever. yeah i left a looooong time ago.

    #656523

    anonymisss
    Participant

    Who’s talking about a failing student? I know someone who passed a test just this week, I think it was on Monday.

    ~a~

    #656524

    moish01
    Member

    ha thanks anonymisss ๐Ÿ˜‰

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