Tish or Farbreng
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September 30, 2021 11:59 pm at 11:59 pm #2011185
Say you received an invitation to either a tish or farbrengen at the same time, which would you choose to attend and why?October 1, 2021 8:41 am at 8:41 am #2011201Reb EliezerParticipant
Fargreng has a bad connotatuin farbreng the zeit, wastijg the time.October 1, 2021 3:31 pm at 3:31 pm #2011357Yserbius123Participant
Neither? I’m not Chassidish nor Lubavitch so neither custom really has any meaning to me. If forced to choose, I guess it depends. Like if it’s one of those Fabrengings I hear about where everyone is shikker on vodka, I’ll risk getting beaned by an apple. However if the Rebbe doesn’t use utensils, and everyone is expected to eat from potato kugel that’s been passed down through dozens of hands, smush my hat creases and call me Shneur Zalman.October 1, 2021 3:34 pm at 3:34 pm #2011378Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
Whichever ends earlier and has less people per sq. foot.October 1, 2021 6:22 pm at 6:22 pm #2011406commonsaychelParticipant
@lostpark, according your post you said your a ger, being we have a Gerrer Rebbe maybe you should consider becoming the Troller Rebbe based on the topic you startOctober 1, 2021 6:26 pm at 6:26 pm #2011421GadolhadorahParticipant
Easier to “network” with your chavrusah at a Fabrengin, typically better music and easier access to the food and spirits.October 1, 2021 6:56 pm at 6:56 pm #2011443
And also common, you didn’t answer the question at hand.October 1, 2021 6:56 pm at 6:56 pm #2011442
Commonsaychel: And here I thought I had too much time on my hands!
Now let me get back to reading Sefas Emes…October 3, 2021 9:59 am at 9:59 am #2011674hujuParticipant
It depends on what game is on TV: Michigan vs. Ohio State – I would watch the game. Michigan vs. Yeshivah U., I would daven for safety of Yeshivah players. Clemson vs. Auburn: Go to the Tish, it’s shorter than than the fahrbengen.October 3, 2021 12:00 pm at 12:00 pm #2011722CTLAWYERParticipant
NO THANKS…Been there, done that in my youth, experiences not to be repeated. In don’t need the few drops of wine or morsels of dried out food that badly. The overcrowded and unsafe conditions and rank smell is unappealing.
I’ll decline and send a check.October 3, 2021 1:30 pm at 1:30 pm #2011769commonsaychelParticipant
@CTL, are you talking about a sports stadium? because that it sounds like it, only its stale beer not wineOctober 3, 2021 5:33 pm at 5:33 pm #2011818CTLAWYERParticipant
The last football game I attended was in the old Yankee Stadium in 1962, People were well behaved, most men still wore ties and hats. I don’t remember beer or pushing and shoving, but people walking up the ramps in an orderly fashion.
I attended Yankees Games in the old stadium until about 1990, we had a box and the crowds were not as calm as in the early 60s.
Until Covid, I’d take the grandchildren to the local minor league baseball games here in CT. Beer wasn’t sold here in the stands and they had family sections.
In 1970, I attended a Farbrengen at 770. The behaviors, odors and such are reflected in my comments. In the 80s I attended several Tischen in EY. I felt unsafe in terms of overcapacity and safety exits in case of fire. None of these had food or drink worth consuming, but that is not the purpose of the event.
I am not one who enjoys being in crowds and jostled and inhaling the personal odors of those in attendance.
I am Litvak Misnagid on the paternal side and Yekkeh on the maternal side. BUT, I support all varieties of Torah Institutions. That doesn’t mean I have to partake in their events.October 5, 2021 9:32 am at 9:32 am #2012370
Farbrengen definetly. in a tish everyone is just looking at one guy and at the end of the day you dont gain that much. at a farbrengen you get inspired start learning more get more involved in yidishkeit.October 5, 2021 9:46 am at 9:46 am #2012419🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
“just looking at one guy”
You have the chutzpah to speak of a Rebbe that way and then complain about how people speak of yours? That’s your chinuch?
“and at the end of the day you dont gain that much.”
Again, chutzpah. How many tishen have you attended? Is this just your own opinion or did you ask around? Do you really think you can speak of chasdidishe Rabbes and minhagim this way while getting bent out of shape and calling it hate when it’s about you?October 5, 2021 11:18 am at 11:18 am #2012434GadolhadorahParticipant
“just looking at one guy/////You have the chutzpah to speak of a Rebbe that way and then complain about how people speak of yours? That’s your chinuch?’
Syag: Lighten up. I don’t think Nochum in any way meant to be disrespectful. That is just how some communicate in the abstract. And obviously he is expressing HIS own opinion and experience which may not be nearly the same or as extensive as yours. I understood his point as a simple one which I also share. For younger folks, a Fabrengen is more interactive, casual, perhaps more music and potentially moe spiritually uplifting than a Tish where there is more of “lecture” style of communication and chinuch with less interaction and might even feel like an extension of the a seder at the yeshiva or kollel. Again, your experience may have been exactly the opposite.October 5, 2021 11:57 am at 11:57 am #2012445🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
GH- I was mirroring his and his friends comments to Avirah and others on the sleeping in the sukkah thread on each of those exact points.October 5, 2021 2:26 pm at 2:26 pm #2012518
CTL: The smell of 770 is in olam hazeh, the smell of lawyers is in olam habah.October 5, 2021 7:45 pm at 7:45 pm #2012608
syag lachochma godal hadorah. i think the way i said it was stupid, i do not C’v want to say a chasidisher rebbe is ” one guy” it came out wrong. i apoligize profoundlyOctober 5, 2021 7:45 pm at 7:45 pm #2012609aposhiteyidParticipant
when did nochum say it was hate?October 5, 2021 8:04 pm at 8:04 pm #2012591aposhiteyidParticipant
A chassidishe farbrengen can accomplish what Malach Michoel cannotOctober 5, 2021 8:17 pm at 8:17 pm #2012645ujmParticipant
Whichever one has better shrayim.October 6, 2021 7:42 pm at 7:42 pm #2013044
in a tish you eat the rebbes shirayim in a farbrengen you the bakerys shirayim
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