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Any advice on how help me? The clicking and the pain are driving me nuts. Tried hot compress, cold compress, motrin, tylenol with codeine, aspirin. Yom Tov was a nightmare – actually Shabbos was the worst then Yom Tov a tiny tiny drop better. But it’s starting to get worse again! HELP!
You need to see a dentist pronto to get fitted for a TMJ appliance. It’s a piece of molded plastic that you wear at night. If you need to you can wear it during the day too. You need to stabliize your jaw, though. Hatzlacha and refuah shleimah.
Get thee to a Dentist, ASAP.
Did you see your dentist? There are specialists who deal with this problem. I don’t know if teeth grinding has anything to do with this problem, but I know that my mother had a mouth guard at night to keep from grinding her teeth.
In any event, refuah shleimah!
I suffered from tmj all of elementary school and high school!!! I was fitted for a tmj mouth piece bH today I am great. Every once in a while if I am exhausted and constantly yawning real big my jaw semi locks and it is painful but, nothing like it was. I used to stay home from school due to the pain. Please go to the dentist!!
Gefen i would love to empathize with you but i have no clue what tmj is can u explain?
go to rabbi elya katz class on dr sarnos method in boro park its free and will change your life
Ignore everyone. Read Dr. Sarno’s book, Mind Body Prescription. His method stopped my TMJ pain in a few days for good.
I don’t know anything about TMJ, so I can’t offer any advice, but refuah sheleimah! 🙁
Is it necessary to tell the poster to ignore all of us who tried to give some advice? I personally dealt with TMJ for years. We are just trying to help. I am so sick of the attitudes on this site. Surely I am not the only one.
Hey Gefen, just wanted to let you know what worked for me. I also suffered a lot from tmj pain due to a an injury to my face. One dentist suggested I take melatonin so that I could go into deep sleep and rest the muscles, which helped a lot. Ultimately I went to a holistic chiropracter who helped tons.
He suggested using a small copper bowl, (you can buy it on amazon) put in a candle at the center, let it melt a bit and light. The lit candle releases tension at the pressure points and works amazing.
Good Luck with this!
Not just any dentist, but one who specializes in TMJ. If you’re in Jerusalem, I can recommend one. If you’re in NY, Maimonides Hospital has (or had) a TMJ program there.
Correction: Don’t ignore Elik. Follow his advice if you understand Yiddish, or get the book.
gefen – Got news for you e/o has TMJ, just mine doesn’t hurt.
TMJ disorder or pain is treated with injection at the site with lidocaine (or a different caine) along with a steroid. Any practitioner can do this, not just a Dentist. Follow up is Not necessary in a lot of cases. If Bruxism is the cause, using Dental blocks, as mentioned above by some, is really outdated nowadays & isn’t recommended anymore.
Thank you for the explanation gefen i never heard of this hope the book helps feel better.
MorahRach, you’re right. Sorry, everyone.
Ask your dentist if he has training in using Botox for this issue, it will help relax those muscles and will take care of your problem better than anything else out there,
I’m from Chicago. Maybe I know you.
Thank you.
Also! My doctor had reccomended this to me, I was in severe pain and I think 13 or 14 but acupuncture really helped my tmj. Before the mouth piece really started working. BH my fathers insurance covered it it can be pricey but it was amazing. I had not slept for weeks and I fell asleep in the car ride home from the first acupuncture.
Wow I actually have a dental appointment next week for this tmj stuffs i have been to one b-4 but he said its nothing now just don’t yawn big… but now a couple years later it got worse. I have terrible pain for a while now off and on. I would like to try Dr. sarnos method he gr8.
I have been suffering from TMJ for years. I already went to many doctors.
1- A very big specialist told me once: “TMJ cannot be cured it can only be helped.” Whatever works for you thats what you should do. I know that when I’m under any kind of stress I start feeling it on my jaw.
2- He also told me that moitrin is the best because its special for muscles and takes away the stress. Tylenol wont help you for this problem. Some days I take moitrin every 4 hours and it helps.
3- When you go to a dentist make sure that he is experienced and knows what hes doing. I went to a few dentists already and most of them just make you a guard and are NOT TMJ specialists. These night guards made my TMJ worse.
G’luck and feel good, I know how bad it can feel.
P.S. I have a TMJ headache now! Its not easy but I learned to live with it and how to handle it.
If advil doesnt help then try Aleve its stronger.
I never read the book but I dont beleive in it. Cuz I think if there is a problem then you got to solve it. I think this book works on your mind but doesnt relax the tension of my jaws.
gefen: I’ll be happy to hear what u did when you get good results!
Moitrin?? Is that a new heimishe brand??
FYI, TMJ = Temporomandibular Joint. Attaches lower jaw to skull. Everyone has one, but most people don’t notice until it hurts.
Bruxism = grinding your teeth.
IMO I would proceed with caution with the Sarno book. I just came across this quote in a review (I find particularly irresponsible the advice to stop any physical therapy and to tell yourself that pain is not dangerous):
“To help people recognize that their mind, rather than a physical abnormality is the source their pain Sarno’s treatment program involves lectures, group meeting and psychotherapy, if necessary. Patients are encouraged to discontinue all physical therapy, resume all physical activity, and review the 10 daily reminders: I have no structural abnormality only mild oxygen deprivation;-I have a harmless condition caused by repressed emotion (mostly anger);-TMS exists to distract me from emotions;-I have nothing to fear;-my physical aching is not dangerous;-I will not be concerned or intimidated by pain;-I will shift my attention from pain to emotional issues;-I intend to be in control-not my subconscious mind;-I must think psychological, not physical.”
(caveat: pain itself may not be dangerous, but one way or another, it’s your body telling you that something’s wrong.)
Popa thinks that sounds idiotic. Yet, we know that there is a placebo effect. So maybe it only works for idiots who will believe it.
But, I’ve never read the book, so I should really see the context.
gefen -“Health: Do you know why the dental blocks are not recommended anymore?”
Ladies & Gents of the Jury – I present to you Exhibit A:
“Hello Kitty –
3- When you go to a dentist make sure that he is experienced and knows what hes doing. I went to a few dentists already and most of them just make you a guard and are NOT TMJ specialists. These night guards made my TMJ worse.”
Btw, if you go to a Doc, like in the ER and you get injected -you probably won’t need to deal with this again. OTOH, if you brux (grind teeth) or have other anxiety or orthodonic problems, this might be chronic. You’ll have to treat the cause of the problem. Bruxism is usually caused by anxiety. Anxiety is treated with therapy and/or drugs. But I’d wager that this is your first time and getting injected will make it all disappear. After the injection, you can read any book you want to and it might help prevent a re-occurance.
my definition for TMJ: TMJ stands for Trouble Making Jaw!!
Wanderingchana-I just cracked up! Moitrin!
Tylenol does nothing alieve can help but if you have had tmj really bad, it doesn’t do the trick. The mouth guard helped me a lot I was very good about wearing it, and as I got older I needed a bigger one made. BH I am doing well now but yes stress seriously adds to the pain!!! And chewing gum. A lot of people don’t realize things like chewing gum and eating lollipops exacerbates the pain. I really hope you feel better, good luck. Don’t grind your teeth!
BTW, people with TMJ should not chew gum. It makes it worse.
How can a physical problem be solved psychologically?
Tension may cause the jaw muscles to tighten and clenching of teeth. Many people have mild versions of TMJ that act up under stress, but if it’s a bad misalignment I think it needs to be treated medically.
TMJ is actually the joint.
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