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July 26, 2011 8:03 pm at 8:03 pm #598230Legen-daryMember
What happens if your dating someone and it goes well- and fast, and you already know after a week that he’s thnking of popping the question and your not ready, yet, and it scares you that its going so fast??
July 26, 2011 8:27 pm at 8:27 pm #791785am yisrael chaiParticipantYou ease on the brakes…
July 26, 2011 9:04 pm at 9:04 pm #791786IUseBrainsParticipantU should find out why he is rushing?
July 26, 2011 9:06 pm at 9:06 pm #791787CheinMemberHope that it’s a nice ring.
July 26, 2011 9:36 pm at 9:36 pm #791788Legen-daryMemberhe’s probably rushing because he feels like he found- the one- but the girl needs more time to digest and think it over…
IUSeBains- explain…
July 26, 2011 9:49 pm at 9:49 pm #791789bptParticipantBe indecisive. Say you feel there is chemistry, but you need more time to make sure about your “feelings”. Nothing is more endearing (and frustrating) and it will prepare him for life with a woman.
(Honestly, the more threads like this I read, the more I appreciate my wife. )
July 26, 2011 10:04 pm at 10:04 pm #791790oomisParticipantBPT, may you always appreciate your wife.
NO ONE should rush or be rushed into an engagement or marriage. If he is on a chapter ahead of yours, you have to make it clear that while you like him and want to get to know him, you are not on the same page yet. If he really likes YOU and not just the thought of being a chosson, he will be more patient,(but not if it takes you a full year to decide).
July 26, 2011 10:24 pm at 10:24 pm #791791am yisrael chaiParticipantmarry in haste, repent at leisure…
July 26, 2011 11:20 pm at 11:20 pm #791792Another nameParticipantLegen-dary, it’s totally normal and accepted that the girl takes longer to make the decision than the boy. That’s usually the way it is. And if he is the right boy, than I’m sure he won’t mind waiting around till you’re ready.
July 27, 2011 1:31 am at 1:31 am #791793Derech HaMelechMemberThis happened to me the other day while I was on YeshivaWorld. He ended up just telling me “Slow down. You move too fast.”
July 27, 2011 1:38 am at 1:38 am #791794aries2756ParticipantIf you feel he is moving too fast, let the shadchan know. Or simply say, “wow, this is moving too fast we need to slow down”. Keep the dating to once a week so you have a little control and you pace it. Let him know that he can’t call you unless it is a planned phone call. Let him know that you like him but that you are feeling that he is way ahead of you and you need the time and space to catch up.
July 27, 2011 1:57 am at 1:57 am #791795popa_bar_abbaParticipantWhat do you do? Usually you drop him.
What should you do? Tell him. Talk to him. Relationships come through communicating your feelings to each other. If you aren’t ready to tell him your feelings, then I have no idea why either of you would want to get engaged.
July 27, 2011 5:15 am at 5:15 am #791796kapustaParticipantAs my mother would say, “buckle up for the ride”. Seriously though, IMO such quick shidduchim are scary. (Not in all circles) dating for such a short time might mean the person is excited to have found the one and wants to hurry up (not a good thing if the person is looking to get married just to be married) or maybe s/hes just enjoying the moment and not really thinking straight. I also think its better to go out a few extra times (within reason) to make sure.
(Btw, how many times did you go out in a week?!)
Hatzlacha!
popa: It’s exciting to get engaged/married. Sometimes people forget what its really about.
July 27, 2011 12:39 pm at 12:39 pm #791797dunnoMemberI had a situation like that once. The guy kept calling to push up dates and I felt I didn’t have enough time to think things through. I know people who were pushed into marriage and although they b”h seem happy, I don’t think I can ever go about it in that way.
July 27, 2011 2:32 pm at 2:32 pm #791798bptParticipantOK, let me re-post but this time without the sarcasm.
#1 – Are you early in your dating career? Is he? If so, then 1 week is too fast. If he is a veteran and you are new to the game, (and he really cares about you) he should understand that you need more time to make a decision like this than he does because of the disparity in experience.
#2 – Ages? If you are under 20, (and presumibly, he is 23-24) you deserve a little more time to make a decision.
#3 – Date duration? Have you gone on an all day, afternoon date? Or have the been just 2 hours in a lounge date? If you’ve spent the day with him, and the time flew by, I’d say you have a winner.
On the other hand, if you are both well into your dating careers, or are both well into your 20s, hesitating may burn the bridge between the two of you. Either way, its a gamble, but saying yes puts a ring on your finger, while saying “I need more time” may give you more time than you bargained for.
Don’t think of it as being pushy; think of it as leadership quality
Decisions, decisions, decisions.
Sounds daunting? Welcome to the marraige club!
July 27, 2011 2:50 pm at 2:50 pm #791799adorableParticipantfirst be thankful for what you have. Daven for clarity. Why cant you tell him what you feel honestly? if you think hes at that stage and you need more time, why cant you tell him that nicely
July 27, 2011 3:06 pm at 3:06 pm #791800☕️coffee addictParticipantLegen-dary,
are you the one dating middlepath?
July 27, 2011 3:40 pm at 3:40 pm #791801adorableParticipantLOL that would be very sharp!!!!
July 27, 2011 4:22 pm at 4:22 pm #791802☕️coffee addictParticipantthank you adorable
I’m very good at math (I can put 2 and 2 together but sometimes they make 5)
July 27, 2011 4:37 pm at 4:37 pm #791803adorableParticipanti know what you mean but sometimes you are right!
July 27, 2011 4:44 pm at 4:44 pm #791804MiddlePathParticipantcoffee, That would be hilarious, but I doubt it for a few reasons: 1) The girl I’m dating knows I’m not ready to pop the question.
2) The girl I’m dating definitely does not go onto Yeshiva World, let alone have an account.
3) The girl I’m dating isn’t from New York, nor is she living there currently.
July 27, 2011 4:47 pm at 4:47 pm #791805☕️coffee addictParticipantit was only a guess
July 27, 2011 6:33 pm at 6:33 pm #791806Legen-daryMemberYou guys crack me up.
Here are some of my anwswers:
(in order of posts)
bpt- indecisive; i did that, but im going to make it more clear.
oomis1105- agreed
am yisrael chai- sharp line- LIKE
Another name- definitly what i was thinking.
aries2756- there is no shadchan in the middle, just the friend that set us up; and i DID have a long conversation with her about it yesterday.
popa_bar_abba- I cant believe you knew that!!?!! yes, thats what usually happens (but not because of how fast guys go and the things they say, but I usually call it off for the right reasons etc)
kapusta- very true, and thanks for the “motherly advice” 🙂 I do agree with you on what you said, and to answer your question- 6 IN ONE WK!!
bpt-#1- no, i have been for quite some time now.
#2 – Ages?- both in 20’s. he’s bout 25/26 (he also has been around the block in dating and in life and has repeatedly said, he knows what he wants (in life/wife), he;s not playing games, he’s very serious (bout closing the “deal’))
#3 – Date duration? – VERY LONG, usually nights because thats when were both available- anywhere from 4/5-6/7 hours!!and time DOES fly by…we dont even want to say good bye- and we’ve gone 2 ot of places- NO LOUNGES!
On the other hand- he knows I want more time, and he understands and told me were in no rush (but KNOW he wants to do it soon, but i ALSO know he’s so devoted, compassioante, sincere and caring that he’ll wait however long until i’m ready)
adorable- Trust me, I daven for it ALWAYS!! I did speak to him…
coffee addict- im POSITIVE im not dating middle path..lol
so heres my problem now-
I like him, and like spending time with him, and i can see a good future- but i’m not all that attrated to him..he’s not ugly or anything.
ALSO, we dont text during the day, if we dont meet up that day we have a LITEREALLY 3 min conversation.
Everything is good, but theres this small nagging feeling inside, like the whole “gut” thing…I’ve spoken to close and wise friends and older guiding adults- they all said to keep going…so I am…
July 27, 2011 6:47 pm at 6:47 pm #791807HealthParticipantI once heard if you’re waiting to hear bells -go next to a church.
But from experience if there is a little voice telling you no, always listen to the voice!
July 27, 2011 7:15 pm at 7:15 pm #791808bptParticipantSo what I’m hearing is, its a total go. But for some reason, you still feel the need to wait, just to be 100% sure.
My take? You ARE 100% sure (as well you should be) but cannot believe its gone this smooth, so you suspect there is “something you are overlooking”.
That’s the voice inside your head that says, “I don’t deserve this” and “its too good to be true”.
Utter nonsense! You do deserve it, and its good and its true.
Still, if you insist on waiting, do this: When he asks, tell him give me 5 minutes to think it over, and I’ll decide.
Hopefully, the next post you make is the news we are all expecting 🙂
July 27, 2011 7:24 pm at 7:24 pm #791809bptParticipant” he’s so devoted, compassioante, sincere and caring that he’ll wait however long until i’m ready”
This, I would be very wary of. At some point, a decision will need to be made. Avoiding it is almost as bad as making one in haste.
Based on what you’ve said, you are both level headed, independent, confident people. Now is the time to put those traits to the most important test of all.
July 27, 2011 8:58 pm at 8:58 pm #791810Legen-daryMemberbpt- i hear you…
July 27, 2011 11:39 pm at 11:39 pm #791811kapustaParticipantCan I be really honest here? I think 6 dates in a week is crazy. No wonder you’re feeling rushed!
July 28, 2011 12:06 am at 12:06 am #791812Legen-daryMemberKapusta- ur not the ONLY one who things its ABSURD- I THINK SO TOO!!!
July 28, 2011 12:41 am at 12:41 am #791813Another nameParticipantLegen-dary, First of all I’m sure I’m not the only one that appreciates actually receiving a response to my comment. Thanks! I am quite impressed that you went down the line and answered all the posters.
Secondly, while almost all sounds well with this guy, what bothers me a little is his lack of attraction. You definitely have to feel some appeal to him. There’s a difference between an “attractive guy” and someone who YOU personally feel attracted to. That is something that you have to figure out for yourself before you go forward. If you need advice, you can discuss your concerns with a rav aware of the situation or your parents.
From everything you said about him, he really sounds great, and if it is meant to be, I look very forward to a mazal tov! 🙂
July 28, 2011 1:08 am at 1:08 am #791814kapustaParticipantOne more thing (just because I think it’s applicable here) and then I’ll try to keep quiet. (uh huh)
When I was learning to park my parents told me to do go slowly. Hitting a car at two miles an hour does a lot less damage than hitting it at ten will. So I’ll say the same thing here, two miles an hour is a lot safer than ten.
(Sorry, I know I’m coming on really strong, this was for the other people reading that it might apply to. ? )
July 28, 2011 1:39 am at 1:39 am #791815am yisrael chaiParticipant6 dates in 1 week?
“it’s ABSURD- I THINK SO TOO!!!,” you write.
So why are you not telling him this and agreeing to 2 dates max per week? Why are you agreeing with him to go out so often if you are not comfortable doing so? Are you afraid how he will respond? Are you just not comfortable being yourself?
Time apart in between dates gives one greater clarity. Listen to your gut; Hashem gives us intuition through it.
An important part of relationships is communication, and you need to be communicating.
IMHO
July 28, 2011 4:44 pm at 4:44 pm #791816Legen-daryMemberAnother name- i totally hear you and i ALWAYS appreciate responces, ESPECIALLY YOURS!!! And I have discussed this with wise guiding and experienced adults. They all told me to continue.
And whatever happens I’ll let you know.
kapusta- the VERY WISE KAPUSTA (as im learning more about the people on YWCR) i ERALLY like the analogy! Thanks for the advice!
am yisrael chai- yes, even for me its fast…but bh now we discussed things over and we’re taking it a it slower…and YOUR 100% right- communication is the key to all good relationships!
Thanks you guys!!!
July 28, 2011 6:26 pm at 6:26 pm #791817HealthParticipantLD – “Everything is good, but theres this small nagging feeling inside, like the whole “gut” thing…I’ve spoken to close and wise friends and older guiding adults- they all said to keep going…so I am… “
BPT says -“That’s the voice inside your head that says, “I don’t deserve this” and “its too good to be true”.”
Now IMHO, is that what the voice is saying (what BPT posted)?
If it is, then he with your guiding adults are correct. If the voice is saying something else, then you should listen to the voice, it’s never wrong.
July 28, 2011 7:54 pm at 7:54 pm #791818aries2756ParticipantIt might be “too much of a good thing” literally. You have been bombarded with him and not have had a chance to get to know him and become enamored with him. Seriously, 6 dates in one week does not allow the psyche to absorb it all nor get used to this other being and become attracted to him. How can one know in one week whether you are attracted to him. Its like discovering a new ice cream flavoring and gorging yourself on it till you are full of it. You know its good and you like it, but your not sure why you were crazy over it when it first came out.
I agree that you should keep going and you will find things to be attracted to. It might not be the whole package, it might turn out to be his amazing smile, or his charm and charisma, or the way he looks at you that really grabs you and throws chills up and down your spine. It may be the way he shows cheesed others that makes him the most beautiful person you know and that’s what attracts you. It is something different for everyone. Look around you and try to figure out how other shidduchim come to be. Sometimes people look so mismatched and one would be hard pressed to figure what one would have seen in the other.
Give yourself a chance to get to know him and you might surprise yourself and see how attracted you might really be to him. If it doesn’t click for you however, then don’t let anyone push you into a relationship that doesn’t work for you. Hatzlocha.
July 28, 2011 8:35 pm at 8:35 pm #791819Legen-daryMemberHealth- yea, there are more moments than most where there is a voice that says “this is too good to be true” and I know that I need to take it slow to really see the reality of it (and it could very well be all good) and to digest it all. And then theres this small nagging voice that says “hmmm..”
but in all honesty I KNOW i need to give iot more time to figure out the “hmmm’s”. I think I know deep down what they are, i have to see if those “hmm’s” are going to bother me or are stupidity..
all in time…and siyata dishmaya
aries2756- BEST ADVICE I NEEDED TO HEAR!!!
(editor- please bold the above written 2 Aries)
Thnak you soooo much!!
July 28, 2011 9:07 pm at 9:07 pm #791820bptParticipant“Utter nonsense! You do deserve it, and its good and its true.”
Boy, I sure wish I knew how to bold, but since I don’t, please forgive the all caps that follow:
HEALTH – IF YOU’RE GONNA QUOTE ME, PLEASE QUOTE THE WHOLE STATEMENT!
“Utter nonsense! You do deserve it, and its good and its true.”
(repeated, for empasis)
The voice in her head that is advocating to stall is talking narishkeit. The voice of truth (which is not always as loud as the voice of falsehood) is telling her, “Don’t let this one slip away!”
July 29, 2011 12:23 am at 12:23 am #791821kapustaParticipantFor the record, IIRC:
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July 29, 2011 1:00 am at 1:00 am #791822mustangriderMemberkapusta, thanx 4 the tip!!!!!
July 29, 2011 3:31 am at 3:31 am #791823kapustaParticipantJuly 29, 2011 3:21 pm at 3:21 pm #791824HealthParticipantBPT – The reason I only quoted part was to ask her a question. I only need to quote what I have to for the purpose of my comment.
And it seems that you are wrong, she has more than one voice telling her to hold back. She has to figure out what is behind THAT voice!
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