Treatment of non jews
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October 18, 2012 11:06 am at 11:06 am #605301Yeshivishsocrates1Participant
I know the conversation was closed, with good reason, but I hope I’m not violating any rules – just wanted to explain my views. Once more, eisav soneh l’yaacov is a legitimate fact, in response to this, i don’t recommend a full scale crusade, just caution. It’s something that we must understand. That’s our role, as am yisrael, to be the despised nation of the world. The disproportionate levels of hate that our tiny nation has received its in lifespan should indicate that this is no coincidence, it is the role hashem wishes to play. Treat people with respect, regardless of their backgrounds etc but never forget the facts. For our own survival. In the thread above, I was merely commenting on the reference to the maamar chazal, not the the optimum treatment of help at home. We have rules set in place to prevent our fraternization with non jews, again not relevant to interactions with help at home but still indicative of our stance towards non Jews.
Personally, I treat everyone who doesn’t give me a reason not to with the basic respect that all human beings deserve. I recommend the same to everyone, but don’t overdo it and appreciate the fact that eisav soneh l’yaacov is just that, a fact!October 18, 2012 11:09 pm at 11:09 pm #900194NaysbergMember
Of the very many people I know and asked, all of them have witnessed (or been victims of) anti-semitism in the medina shel chesed throughout their lives. And most of them live in Brooklyn, Monsey, Lakewood, etc.
Yes, anti-semitism is something we all live with most days. Whether in areas with large Jewish populations or in areas with hardly a Jew in sight. And everything in between.October 19, 2012 3:46 am at 3:46 am #900195WIYMember
Yes there still is plenty anti Semitism and there are still plenty non Jews convinced that Jews have all the money and that we run everything blah blah blah.
Most sane adults will not say anything anti-Semitic unless they are angry, had something to drink or if you act in an obnoxios way.October 19, 2012 6:08 pm at 6:08 pm #900197
WIY: When the goy is drunk you learn their true feelings.October 19, 2012 7:23 pm at 7:23 pm #900198No One Mourns The WickedMember
“Most sane adults will not say anything anti-Semitic unless they are angry, had something to drink or if you act in an obnoxious way.”
Well said, maybe we Jews should start treating the non Jews with some respect and we’ll see the same from them.October 21, 2012 1:41 am at 1:41 am #900199
maybe we Jews should start treating the non Jews with some respect and we’ll see the same from them.
We’ve tried that for thousands of years.
The results were churbans, pograms, beatings, murders, expulsions, inquisitions, blood libels, and holocausts.October 21, 2012 2:06 am at 2:06 am #900200Yeshivishsocrates1Participant
We should be treating them with respect, as maaseh yado, they deserve that, but not with intention of getting results. We should treat them with respect because they are gods creations, but nothing at all will ever change the fact that Eisav Soneh L’yaacov.October 22, 2012 2:07 am at 2:07 am #900201golden momMember
im coming in the middle of st so i hope my comment is not totally of but
who hid many children and familys during the war who helped smuggle over the boarders who snuck in food under the resuems noises there r good ones and bad ones
and the story i read a couple of months ago and still have chills going up and down my spin from of a man in germany who used to great is neighbor every morning with respect well yrs later when he was lined up and they were making the famous desion of who will go to the right and who will go to the left this man recognized his neighbor after so many yrs and said to him good morning like he always did (which was out of line and he could have been shoot on spot for doing) and the soilder looked him in the face and had to send him to ‘LIFE’
so we nener know that kind word… could save our lifeOctober 22, 2012 4:33 am at 4:33 am #900202WIYMember
Moral of the story, if you say good morning to your non Jewish neighbor, then when they decide to murder 6 million of us they will spare you!
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