trouble with learning

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    shtiky shlo
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    when i sit in my seat i just have trouble concentrating when my chavrusa is hondling

    #869448
    spectrum
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    depends what the problem is, is it that you cannot follow? then maybe a chavrusa more for your level is neccecary

    if you just dont have a cheishek to learn then speak to your rebbi for help, dont be afraid Ain HAbayshon lomaid.

    and if u just space out , well as rav avgdor miller says, ” no one spaces out while eating ice cream”

    unless of course there is a real problem i.e. ADD etc

    hatzlacha learning

    #869449
    shtiky shlo
    Member

    my rabbi answered me with a story from the chofetz chaim, bochur said i have no love for learning chofetz chaim answered learn without love

    I dont see how this applies so much to me ive been trying much harder but still

    #869450
    Sam2
    Participant

    Try standing up (only half-facetious here).

    #869451
    spectrum
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    sometimes there are distractions from a person that cause him not to be ” into learning” and therefore he wont develop a cheishek to learn,

    I dont know you personally, or your matziv , and your age definetly plays a factor

    In order to develop a cheishek to learn one has to learn (as your rebbi quoted from the chofetz chaim) even when he has no cheishek because if he really puts himself out to it it will eventully come, but it wont come easy, but when it comes you will appreiciated alot more.

    Lets be clear. a person can want to learn, that doesnt mean he has no yezter hora telling him not to.

    #869452
    RABBAIM
    Participant

    1- Learn something difficult for 10 minutes with total concentration. the effort is the key. NO shortcuts or crutches. plain hard yegia

    2- daven hard with a lot of begging and feeling when you say Birchas HaTorah in the am. Vihaarev Na Hashem…… and PLEASE make it sweet in my mouth……… mean IT!!

    3- Deep concentration during the last Bracha before Shma. Avinu Av Harachaman…….. and give in to my heart understanding etc….. really mean it. you will see a change in a few days!

    #869453
    HaLeiVi
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    If you spaced out and you lost the train of thought, try again. If you are young and new in the Beis Medrash there might be many thoughts flying through your head. With persistance you will prevail.

    If you find it hard to stay concentrated for extended lengths of time, take a few small breaks. That what the coffee is there for.

    #869454
    HaQer
    Member

    Stop thinking about girls.

    #869455
    blueprints
    Participant

    Give up the tough shlo’s and stick to rishonim lol

    #869456
    jewish source
    Participant

    Shlo Hakodosh, the issue here is the handeling. give up the handeling work with the gemaras outline understanding the gemara every detail the rashi the tosfos simple pashut pshat not the handelerai OSIOS MACHKIMOS the letters themselves will enlighten you and give you the cheishek and drive and the sipuk and iYH you will never stop learning. Simple yegia understanding poshut pshat . not Artscrol that is giving it to you on a silver platter easy in easy out no real geshamaker reward for yourself.

    another idea I would like to share with you . some chavrusos dominate the chavrusa shaf . ainer hocked un yenner shluft. both chavrusos should be saying not together but lemoshol you say the gemara and then he says the rashis but never anyone dominating

    Hatzloche Rabba

    #869457
    RABBAIM
    Participant

    Is it getting any better?

    #869458
    shtiky shlo
    Member

    no

    #869459
    yitayningwut
    Participant

    Force yourself to concentrate. If you tell yourself “Under no circumstances am I giving up, I’m just gonna power through this”; you’ll get used to it. Works every time.

    Also, make sure you’re not tired. Get a coffee if you are.

    #869460
    ItcheSrulik
    Member

    Try a different derech for a couple days. Maybe even a different topic. Ain adam lomed ela m’makom shelibo chofetz. If “exploring” doesn’t help, then you know you have to get back to work on developing a cheshek.

    #869461
    RABBAIM
    Participant

    What have you tried that has not worked? Any of the above suggestions? My collection has worked without fail for so many Talmididm. very few individuals have tried it for real and have not succeeded. most who really followed it all have been opened!

    Also, in this weeks parsha we see a connection between kedusha and kashrus. Are you careful with the hechshairim of what you put ion your mouth? Rav Akiva Eiger once told the paretn of a child who did not enjoy learning that he must have eaten treif……and once he did teshva, his geshmak followed.

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