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The man seems to be one of the best candidates ever for ‘asur lehistakel bifnei rasha’. Honestly, is there much room to be meikel? (aside from the natural sense of repulsion one has from looking at such a person, which probably goes together with Chazal’s issur).
What makes you say that he is a rasha?
The guy does a lot of charity and good deeds.
He is also a very big supporter of Israel and even has Jewish Grandchildren. I do not think that makes him a rasha.
I am not a supporter of Israel and don’t have Jewish grandchildren, but I think I am better than Trump.
Utah, if you’re talking about his charity through his foundation, that’s almost entirely other peoples’ money. The Washington Post has been trying to find evidence of Trump’s charity and has mostly been unable to do so. Of course, if he released his tax returns, we could just look at his Schedule A.
@rebyid ok so your a good guy and trump is also a good guy.
@yehudayona I dont mean that. I mean that I’ve heard stories of Trump doing big acts of kindness with his own personal assets. For exapmle I heard a story of how Trump flew a sick kid in his personal plane to recieve medical treatments after the kid was told that he wasnt allowed to fly commercial. I’m talking more about acts like that. (Google this story. Happened about a year ago with a sick jewish kid from LA)
bottom line… would you rather a crook or a clown running this country? Id personally rather a clown. Hillary is pure evil.
balanceisthekey -“The man seems to be one of the best candidates ever for ‘asur lehistakel bifnei rasha’. Honestly, is there much room to be meikel? (aside from the natural sense of repulsion one has from looking at such a person, which probably goes together with Chazal’s issur).”
LOL! Where in the world does YWN pick up all these liberals?
How many Presidents would fit into this category?
At least the Republicans admit when there wrong! Eg. Nixon resigned.
By Carter – a Godol said he was a Menuval!
And from that time on – the DemonCrats have just gotten worse and worse!
Trump for…president! (HRC for a nice long jail sentence)
I wouldn’t even vote for Trump for dog catcher!
Both Trump and Clinton, and their supporters, focus on demonizing those who disagree with them and often very rudely with crude language that would be considered deplorable bullying if done in other contexts. Neither will lead a unified country, which will have a crippling effect on domestic and foreign policy.
Agagag! If Nixon hadn’t resigned, he would have been impeached and convicted.
Trump for Emperor; Melania for Empress, Pepe the Frog for National Mascot
Re Utah’s first comment: A goy’s having Jewish grandchildren says nothing about the goyish grandparent, other than that he or she probably acquiesed in his son’s choice of a Jewish wife.
As for Trump’s charitable giving, what little we know about it is that (i) he has not contributed to the charitable foundation bearing his name for 8 years, (ii) he did not pay up on funds he raised for veterans until the liberal media pointed out that he had not made the promised payment 3 months after it was promised (he did subsequently pay up, under the spotlight), (iii) he has not released his tax returns, which would give us a precise measure of his charitable giving, and (iv) he used charitable foundation funds under his control to pay a settlement for one of his businesses.
As for his support of Israel, plenty of rashas (e.g., Madoff) support Israel. It’s the first thing they bring up at the sentencing hearings to show why they should get a light sentence.
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YY -“Agagag! If Nixon hadn’t resigned, he would have been impeached and convicted.”
Why must liberals like you resort to improbable lies to make your point?
It’s very unlikely that Nixon would have even been impeached and removed from office!
He probably would’ve been impeached in the House.
It takes 2/3 of the Senate to remove him.
The DemonCrats only had 56 seats and it was unlikely that enough Republicans would have joined in!
Rethuglicans like Trump hate poor people.
Health, again you call me names. It’s so third grade.
I suggest you do a little research about Watergate before you make ignorant comments. Barry Goldwater told Nixon that his conviction was inevitable.
YY -“Health, again you call me names. It’s so third grade.”
You sound like a kindergartner, not a third grader! Read my post again – it had nothing to do with you!
“I suggest you do a little research about Watergate before you make ignorant comments. Barry Goldwater told Nixon that his conviction was inevitable”
Another liberal lie!
Do you know the difference between conviction and impeachment?!?
From Wikipedia:
“In 1974, as an elder statesman of the party, Goldwater successfully urged President Richard Nixon to resign when evidence of a cover-up in the Watergate scandal became overwhelming and impeachment was imminent.”
Trump is a realist. he has no problem stating the problem and trying to find a way to solve it. Hillary and many others deny that there are any problems. if anyone says that there is a problem they are put down for being a rasist, Obama hater or being a conspiracy theorist. We need someone who recognizes the problems and addresses them as our next president
Health, you called me a liberal. QED.
If you’re quoting Wikipedia, how about this part, from the article entitled “Impeachment process of Richard Nixon.”
I’ll actually believe that! People were honest back then!
When it came to throwing out Billy Boy, the Senate voted on party lines! And I think, Hillary if voted in, will follow the same path!
It’s not quite true that in the Clinton case the Senate vote was along party lines. While no Democrat voted to convict, a number of Republicans voted to acquit. There were two charges, and of the 55 Republicans voting, 45 voted guilty on one charge and 50 on the other. Since conviction requires 67 votes, it was all basically theatrics. There was never any chance that he would have been convicted. To remove a president requires the vote of both parties.
YY -“Since conviction requires 67 votes, it was all basically theatrics. There was never any chance that he would have been convicted. To remove a president requires the vote of both parties.”
At that time – yes. It depends on the amount each party has!
Also you could say that the Republicans that voted not guilty – one charge it was 5 and the other it was ten, maybe they didn’t feel it reached to the level of willful, etc. even though it was obvious that he lied!
The Clintons are continuously riding on that fine line between guilty or not! Do we as a country want someone like that to be our president?
Maybe give s/o else a chance, like Mr. Trump?!?
You guys just don’t want some rich guy moving into public housing. Your worried that the next thing you know the rich white guys are going to be moving into the projects.
Health, you’re correct that it’s conceivable that one party could have the two-thirds majority it takes for convicting a president. In 1935-1943 and 1963-1967 the Democrats had a two-thirds majority in the Senate.
Abba_S, if you’re referring to the White House, I’m afraid that Trump would gold-plate everything.
Actually Trump and Clinton (or Johnson) would both be quite impeachable since if elected they would not have any “mandate” since they would have won with a shockingly low percentage of the popular vote, and with most of their supporters having preferred someone else to be president. This might encourage them to act more mentchlicht if elected, but probably not.
I’m thinking of putting out a line of t-shirts that say “Impeach Trump” on one side and “Impeach Hillary” on the other.
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