Trump is a Coward

In addition to what the OP said, Trump is a coward, with or without bone spurs. Also, he is monumentally stupid, and I am starting to think that maybe, just maybe, Putin has information about Trump that would embarrass the otherwise shameless Trump.

And would the Trumpkopfs among us explain why Israel’s “greatest friend” has so many supporters among the anti-Semitic militias, and how the frum Trumpkopfs reconcile that with their support for Trump.

Huju,

Can you explain why so many rabid anti-semites support Biden, Harris, Clinton etc.. (Apparently for Obama, you don’t need an answer to understand).

If actions speak louder than words, then try to reconcile your comment about who are the true anti-semites. If you are willing to be honest in your assessment.

I do not know details, but I can tell you that Putin did not pull this while Trump was president. And who knows what type of deals old and young Biden had in Ukraine.

nishtdayngesheft: Not meaning to oversimplify, but there are many vocal anti-semetic groups whose support for Trump is exactly because of their perception that notwithstanding his strong stand on Israel, he has said things that came across to them as disparaging of American Jews and other minorities (or at least tolerant of those views). Whereas even if Biden were an anti-semite (I never heard any such thing), nobody who supports Biden supports him for for the reason that he has any such (perceived) hate.
And Trump’s support of Bibi was a show for evangelicals, who largely support Israel for their own religious doctrine, not for us. Whereas democrats’ support of religious liberty and TOLERANCE on our own soil is a benefit to everyone, though tolerance now-a-days can get a bit extreme.

True by the way, Putin didn’t do this on Trump’s watch. After thinking about it, I’ve concluded that at best, Trump could claim that his unpredictable nature on any issue big or small could have scared Putin. But at the same time, that unpredictable nature is the nature of a dictator so he basically normalized and licensed other nations to act like dictators to get what they want, instead of negotiation and compromise. That’s the last thing we need for global stability. And the world always depended on U.S. to act as an example.
At worst, it be could be said that while this didn’t happen on his watch, he spent 4 years eroding systems and trust that create stability.

Dorah,

No need, I’m going with the most accurate descriptions. It seems like you’re bothered by them but I’m not sure why, given your own fondness for adjectives.

But in fairness, I try to mix them up occasionally …..

Er,

The Democrats of late have not been supportive of religion or teligious rights, to put it mildly. Need I remind you of Democratic leadership in NY?

And that is very much the direction of liberals as a whole. Look at how they attacked ACB because she is religious.

The left leaning anti Israel and anti semites very much voted for Biden and his party because of those beliefs, that religion is something to be scorned. And intersectionality makes Palestinians preferable to Israeli’s.

Look at the actions of the most vocal in the Democratic Party now, the unholy squad.

I don not support everything Trump said, says, did or does, but he is not an anti semite. Words that are ascribed to him that might have drawn hateful people towards him were intentional misrepresentations ( in other words, bold faced lies)by MSM and the Democrats. You know the whole there are good people on both sides fiasco.

Trump is not an anti semite but by not standing up against them, he encourages them.

Can everyone stop pretending we don’t know exactly why trump said what he said? It’s really not complicated. Yes, he’s happy that Biden failed again on the world stage, and he can’t help but point out how Putin totally played Joe Biden. Trumps ego is nothing new, lets stop pretending it is.
Huju, “And would the Trumpkopfs among us explain why Israel’s “greatest friend” has so many supporters among the anti-Semitic militias, and how the frum Trumpkopfs reconcile that with their support for Trump.”-First of all, it’s unbelievable that you can actually type these words when many of Bidens supporters are anti semetic, and anti israel as well. As for your question, i’m not sure what has to be “reconciled”. I think it’s fair to say that White nationalists and white supremacists are more likely to have nationalistic/patriotic feelings. Trump shares these feelings, but not in the same sense. Actually quite the opposite. Trump is a huge believer in American exceptionalism. Loves
America for how it evolved to become perhaps the freest country i the history of the world. And I wouldn’t worry about putin having information on trump. I’d actually worry about what they might find out in regards to Hunter Biden and ukraine. And how they might be able to blackmail Joe with that info.

Er, thanks for acknowledging that Trump’s unpredictability was a deterrence against Putin. I agree.
And, I think, this is a risk we have to take when dealing with such serious threats. Mitt Romney had a clear anti-Russian position and was laughed at by everyone. So, in the current environment, we can’t get a President that will deter Russia/China/Iran without having some middos problems. I am thinking of Trump like Iftach – someone who is needed under certain circumstances. And then some perspective – I would rather some Brazilian president behave badly possibly influenced by Trump than Putin breaking up post-WW2 order in Europe.

>> And Trump’s support of Bibi was a show for evangelicals, who largely support Israel for their own religious doctrine, not for us.

This is a classical example of why midah of gratitude is so difficult. As Kotzker responded when told that someone says bad things about him – “strange, I don’t recall doing anything good to that person!”. Whatever his reasons were, he did a number of steps that sounded outrageous, were predicted to generate a war, and served to strengthen Israel. Is it not good enough to say “thank you”? I understand your larger point that tolerance is good for the Jews in general (Berel Wein remarks that most atrocities happen when Jews are not religious, and non-Jews are; it is better to be other way around). I do disagree with that point, though – with tens of millions of people killed by communists in last century, I weigh the risk of intolerant tolerance higher than you do.

I heard Pfizer came up with a TDS pill, but has trouble testing it because nobody is asking for a cure. The good news is that we reached herd immunity, with 50 percent already sick, and the other 50 sick of hearing those who are sick. So, with no new anti Trumpers to infect, the main problem now is long TDS. I heard some are cured by taking in videos of vitamins b, d,e,I,n for several hours daily. This finally brings sleep and mental relaxation to the sufferers. Refuah shleima

to paraphrase a letter to the editor in one of new york’s papers:

i wonder how many ukrainian men are today not fighting because of bone spurs
lol

My opinion;

He is not a coward.

He may be focused on is ego,

he may be very selfish

And he may not have the best middos

but nonetheless,

he is not a coward. It is simply the wrong word. He stood up to many things, including UNWRA, the UN, much of the press, enmity, slander etc ….

Here in E.Israel there is a rumor going round, that American intelligence heard about a potential invasion, Trumo flew to moscow and met Putin בארבע עינים and told him that if he invades the US might just bomb Moscow.

Call Biden any positive title you like, someone who has power but it is obviously unprepared to use it loses his advantage, and to my mind that is a level of cowardice.

In terms o diplomacy, too, Trump was able to negotiate from an advantage, whicBiden doesn’t have.

I understand that there might be much which I don’t lnow about, and I really do not view Trump as a role model, nonetheless I feel that cowrd is notthe right adjective.

Gadol,
Building houses is a public service, even if these are expensive houses.
Running a show that teaches people business is a public service.
Making peace between Israel and several Arab countries is public service.
Pressing Europeans to increase defense spending is public service
Pressing Europeans to exclude Chinese from their cell services and Russians from gas is public service.
You are free to have have your issues with Trump, but ignoring obvious facts will not get anyone to listen to you

“I’m naive enough to believe there is an alternative that might provide most of the benefits you cite w/o leaving a trail of chaos and destruction.”

The problem is, is that the person isn’t electable (cue Mitt Romney or Jeb Bush

Trump and Putin are guilty of psychological projection כל הפוסל במומו פוסל one who faults, faults with their own faults.

Gadol > We have builders who have provided 5x to 10x more homes that are also affordable,

Ergh, “they did not build that” as your posek said. It is a false canard to disregard good things because they benefited from the act. If someone does a good thing for you, even unintentionally, you owe him gratitude. Also false preference for unprofitable hesed, often performed at healthy “non profit” salaries at someone else’s expense. Trump hired more poor Hispanics than Obama did.

“Frankly, given that Biden is still somewhat sane, he should do the right thing and hire Trump as chief of staff and let him deal with Ptutin…”

AAQ: No argument at this end. If Trump could do anything to stop the carnage and bloodshed w/o starting a nuclear war, I would support making him King, renaming the Blue Plains Facility as the Trump Facility and putting his likeness on Mt. Rushmore

To nishtdayngesheft: You ask a reasonable question. All I can say is that anti-Semitism is so deeply embedded in Western culture that every political point of view has anti-Semites among it supporters. But if Trump is unequivocally Israel’s greatest friend, why does he have so many anti-Semitic right-wing supporters? I cannot figure that out.