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  • #2000147
    Health
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    Trump came out today – requesting Biden Resign.
    Agree or Not?!?

    Me – You can’t Resign from a position that you weren’t elected to!

    #2000161
    Reb Eliezer
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    Health, you are worse than Trump. At least according to your view, Trump agrees that Biden was elected as he wants him to resign. The correct English is I and not Me. Whether he was elected or not did not happen to you.

    #2000159
    ☕️coffee addict
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    “Me – You can’t Resign from a position that you weren’t elected to!“

    So Jen Psaki can’t resign because she wasn’t elected to being press secretary?

    And if you really believe it to be true, then Trump disagrees with you (or is saying Biden was elected to the position)

    #2000166
    jackk
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    Health,

    According to your logic, the current President of the US requested someone who is not the current President to resign from being President.

    Mind boggling.

    #2000174

    Biden knows history and Senate. He will only resign when, like w/ Nixon, Senators will tell him they are going to vote to convict. A better question – whether any of the Secretaries – State, Defense or Military leaders or advisors will resign. Either, because their advice was so bad, or if their good advice was not followed.

    Unfortunately, lack of public/media criticism of D- Presidents does not serve them well. With Trump, you would have seen people threating or actually resigning or being fired, when he disregarded their opinions. So, each of these disagreements was vetted through robust discussions. Even Obama
    had Biden contradicting many of his decisions (killing Osama, staying in Afghanistan), forcing a discussion. With Biden, most of the discussions are happening after the disaster already happened.
    Petraeus, McMaster, Bloomberg published in the last day. I don’t know whether they were quiet before, or were not quoted, or were trying to talk in private, but it is too late for a lot of innocent people.

    #2000178
    Health
    Participant

    RE, CA, Oh Jackk, – Trump also agrees he won the Election.
    And he knows that an Imposter is Sitting in the White house.
    So he’s being PC and he’s calling Biden to Resign, for all the Stupid Policies he’s wants or Enacted to appease e/o even you Libs!
    Go read his letter.

    #2000179
    Yserbius123
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    At this point I think it’s abundantly clear that there’s no evidence that the election was stolen. The Maricopa Cyber Ninjas have spent months dragging their feet and whining that they are being stymied because they aren’t allowed to canvas door-to-door to double check the people’s votes. Mr. Pillow Man spent three days talking about nothing, claiming to have 14 terrabytes of data as proof, but refused to do anything with it other than show some brief images on a screen.

    And of course, anyone who casts doubt on anything Trump says is automatically a RINO or a “lying lib”.

    #2000260
    Reb Eliezer
    Participant

    Health, did Trump ever care about PC (Politial Correctness)?

    #2000314
    Health
    Participant

    RE -“Health, did Trump ever care about PC (Politial Correctness)?”

    He did, for his constituency!

    #2000313
    Health
    Participant

    Yesr -“At this point I think it’s abundantly clear that there’s no evidence that the election was stolen….”

    Typical Left, Lib answer.
    You can’t say Biden is doing a good job, so you try to change the Subject!
    Here it is again:
    “Trump came out today – requesting Biden Resign.
    Agree or Not?!?”

    Answer the question & Stop trying to change the Subject!
    We have many Topics in the CR discussing whether the election was Stolen or Not!

    #2000371
    akuperma
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    Trump had good reason to question the election results since based on exit polls he probably won; the correct response is that the exit polls didn’t take into account that Democrats were more likely to use absentee ballots (usually absentee and normal voting yield similar results). Trump also ignore the Republicans did well in most races, and “ballot box stuffers” never split tickets. But to say that Trump has no basis to suspect fraud is totally wrong.

    In foreign affairs, Trump’s populists and Biden’s progressives all tend to be isolationist. Trump initiated the policy that Biden implemented. For obvious reasons, Biden doesn’t want to take credit for Trump’s foreign affairs policy (even though Biden has no problem claiming credit for Trump’s Covid-19 vaccines. By the standards of 1980, Trump is a RINO (and back then, he was Democrat). Expect a conservative running on platform of fiscal responsibility and a strong foreign policy to try to re-take the Republican party, and return to the policies of Ronald Reagan’s administration.

    #2000412
    AviraDeArah
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    Biden resigning would just mean that the beloved openly communist kamalah harris would become president. What good would that do?

    #2000742
    Health
    Participant

    Akuperma -“In foreign affairs, Trump’s populists and Biden’s progressives all tend to be isolationist. Trump initiated the policy that Biden implemented. For obvious reasons, Biden doesn’t want to take credit for Trump’s foreign affairs policy”

    You’re making a big mistake.
    Even though Trump & Biden and even Obama are Isolationists, they didn’t make fools of themselves.
    Biden is the only Fool.
    The rest were slowly taking the Troops out of Afiganistan, but Biden took them all out before the Afigan Troops were ready!
    What an Incompetent Fake President!

    #2000748
    Yechi Hamelech
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    @coffeeaddict @Rebeliezer

    You guys should prob have read Trump’s statement before making assumptions to be yored l’sof daato. And you definitely haven’t done so, as evidenced from your ignorance by saying “trump disagrees with you” or “at least trump agrees that biden was elected otherwise he wouldn’t ask him to resign”.
    Well, your both wrong. Trump’s statement on twitter read as follows: ““It is time for Joe Biden to resign in disgrace for what he has allowed to happen to Afghanistan, along with the tremendous surge in COVID, the Border catastrophe, the destruction of energy independence, and our crippled economy. It shouldn’t be a big deal, because he wasn’t legitimately elected in the first place.”

    So Trump acknowledged that Biden was never ‘legitimately’ elected, yet, at the same time, calls for his ‘resignation’ utilizing the term that would work according to the mainstream perspective, namely, that Biden was indeed legitimately elected. There is no stira minei ubei in the statement, and, in fact, I wholeheartedly agree with Trumps assertation that Biden has gotta go, especially considering that fact that his initial election was highly questionable to begin with, although I wouldn’t go so far as to state assuredly that his presidency was entirely illegitimate.

    #2000761
    Reb Eliezer
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    Health, the Afghan troops were trained for twenty years. They behaved like children who never grew up to be independent of their parents, the U.S. When would they be ready?

    #2000770
    jackk
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    Nobody cares what Trump thinks or diyukim in his narishkeit.
    He can declare himself king and he will have millions of supporters agreeing. He is a king with no clothes.

    He lost. Get over it. He can play golf all day long.

    He can’t live with his crushing defeat so he pops up every once in a while to whine and cry about his loss. He is a “BIG LOSER”.

    We don’t care about his lies regarding the election, or his “views” on covid, afghanistan or the border. America is way better off now than it was the past 4 years.

    Biden is doing a great job and exactly what he was elected to do. Most of America loves him and supports him.(And if he runs in 3 years will elect him again.)

    Promises made , promises kept.

    The situation with afghanistan shows how blind his supporters are. Trump was completely in favor of getting the US out of there and worked out a deal with the taliban. But now that he can complain about Biden, he conveniently forgets.

    #2000774
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Jackk

    “Nobody cares what Trump thinks or diyukim in his narishkeit.“

    Yet you say

    “ He can declare himself king and he will have millions of supporters agreeing.”

    So I guess his supporters care

    “Biden is doing a great job and exactly what he was elected to do. Most of America loves him and supports him.“

    There was a poll that asked if you think Biden did a good job in Afghanistan and 69% said no

    And foreign policy is his “strong point”

    Yeah right

    #2000773
    commonsaychel
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    @jackk, “Biden is doing a great job” are you out of your mind????????????? let me know what you are drinking and I will put it away for purim

    #2000781
    Gadolhadorah
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    Its funny watching Trump sitting in that little room in his NJ Golf Club behind a desk and backdrop designed to make it look like he is still in the WH and issuing mindless press releases with the Presidential Seal that even Fox ignores. Its hard for him to accept that not even his long-term supporters really care what he has to say although they will still show up for a MAGA Rally as a form of entertainment by the orange blob. Biden’s screwup of the implementation of Trump’s surrender to the Taliban won’t really have much in the way of long-term effects.

    #2000852
    Yechi Hamelech
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    @Jackk

    Wait, what did Biden do again?
    Can you name a specific accomplishment, or are you only gonna rattle off his praises as you liberal parents have friends have taught you to do. You see, Dems tend to be very emotional people and get hyped over people whose views reflect their agenda even when those very people don’t do a THING for America, and, in fact, make things worse. Case in point in regards to our dear prez who no one likes (at least as the polls suggest), Joe Biden, the man who singlehandedly wreaked more havoc in our country in the last 6 months than all previous presidents combined (and still counting!).

    #2000856
    Shalom-al-Israel
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    It is very possible that under Trump we wouldn’t see emboldened both Hamas (Paleban) and Taliban…

    #2000884
    Health
    Participant

    Oh Jackk, -“America is way better off now than it was the past 4 years”

    Enough with your Lib Lies!
    Letting e/o in the Country is Not good for the US.
    It’s not me – a Federal Judge said Biden can’t do that, but he’s waiting 2 weeks before implementing his decision!

    #2000878
    Health
    Participant

    RE -“Health, the Afghan troops were trained for twenty years. They behaved like children who never grew up to be independent of their parents, the U.S. When would they be ready?”

    IDK, but the US can’t leave until they are!
    Do you think that Biden’s removal of the troops, at this time, was a good idea?!?

    There’s a saying that if the Kid does something Wrong – it’s Not their fault, but the Parents.
    Now all the Lives Lost in Afghanistan to give them freedom, including American lives, were in Vain!

    #2001022
    jackk
    Participant

    I know I offended all the Trump supporters in the CR by praising Biden and criticizing Trump.

    A debate regarding this issue will not change anyone’s opinions. You have yours and I have mine.
    According to yechihamelech, I am not even entitled to an opinion.
    Most of America who do not watch or listen to fox news don’t hear all the lies and ridiculous statements that they make.

    All the comments above, including mine, are hyperbolic political statements which each side uses against the other.

    A Ksivah V’chasima Tovah to all.

    #2001080
    Health
    Participant

    Oh Jackk, -“I know I offended all the Trump supporters in the CR by praising Biden and criticizing Trump.”

    It’s not because we love Trump and Hate DemonCrats.
    The reason is because of their policies.
    1. No treatment for Covid besides Vaccines & there are quite a few.
    2. Destroying Afghanistan, when Americans and others gave their lives for their Freedom.
    3. Open borders with people bringing in all kinds of disease.
    I know – Covid is already here.
    But soon Ebola from Africa will be here!
    Will you DemonCrats take Credit for that?!?

    #2001078
    ☕️coffee addict
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    For once I agree with you jackk

    And כתיבה וחתימה טובה

    #2001309
    Tzvi Mintz
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    Health, as much as we both wish Trump won, HE DIDNT. 5 states, millions of votes, a battle for the supreme court, and you seriously still think he won? Im not saying there was no fraud (there is fraud in every election), but definitely not millions of votes fraud. Are we not always yabbling about how the country is going so far to the left, yet you’re still saying a republican won the election in 2021???

    #2001349
    Health
    Participant

    TM -“Health, as much as we both wish Trump won, HE DIDNT. 5 states, millions of votes, a battle for the supreme court, and you seriously still think he won?”

    First of all, stick to the Topic of what I started this topic on.
    It wasn’t about the 2020 election.

    But since you commented on it, go to Lindell’s Documentary and then come back here to discuss the many YWN topics on it.
    Not this one.

    #2001939
    Gadolhadorah
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    Do the Trumpkopf acolytes really believe this stuff about 2020 or is it just a bunch of grifters looking to fundraise off their seemingly endless stream of voting machine conspiracy theory meshugaas. Last night the pillow guy Mike Lindell (aka Nostradumbaxx), coming off his cyber-symposium fiasco moved the goal posts for the fourth or fifth time and predicted that the Supreme Court would remove Biden from office this fall and “reinstate” the Trumpkopf by the “end of 2021”. (He also offered a special discount on his doggie-beds for those contributing to his forensic chavurah). In turn, Trump gave him a shoutout from the bimah calling him a brilliant patriot who was “ready to die for his country”. Its the only show in town that will provide temporary comic diversion from the tragedy evolving from Biden’s misguided Afghanistan withdrawal.

    #2002215
    Health
    Participant

    GH -“Do the Trumpkopf acolytes really believe this stuff about 2020 or is it just a bunch of grifters looking to fundraise off their seemingly endless stream of voting machine conspiracy theory meshugaas”

    Look at it this way – the News right Now is portraying Lindell as a Crazy Guy.
    Maybe he went too far recently; because he’s a Real Patriot.
    If you want to have a real discussion about the 2020 election, first watch his Documentary.
    Then come back here to discuss.

    The problem with you DemonCrats is – if you don’t follow the PC that Biden is the President – then they can’t even have a discussion with you.

    The country won’t Survive much longer with the Far-Left Policy that Biden is Promoting!
    He just took out all the Troops causing many Deaths.
    He brought Afgans here to save them, but how many are Really Terrorists?!?

    #2002297

    Gadol> Its the only show in town that will provide temporary comic diversion from the tragedy evolving from Biden’s misguided Afghanistan withdrawal.

    A pretty round-about way to say it, but who said teshuva is easy … Maybe contact your elected officials and let them know how you feel to help reverse whatever is possible? People who voted (D) but are disappointed now are the ones who can move the politicos.

    #2003867
    Reb Eliezer
    Participant

    Biden listens to his competent advisors because he realizes that he does not know everything. However, Trump did not, thinking he knows everything, so they resigned.

    #2003920

    RebE > Biden listens to his competent advisors

    not true factually: It is well documented that military did not like the idea of leaving Afghanistan in all administrations, and Biden was advising Obama not to listen to them long time ago.

    left-wing reports describe a different picture, unfortunately: his advisors are first selected to conform to his views (see McCain objecting to Blinken appointment some years ago including his views on Afganistan), and also group-think where advisors are aware of his views and not contradicting him, partly because it is futile, partly because it is bad for their careers. Note that most advisors raised up by being Biden advisors and no other independent experience. This is as old as Sanhedrin discussions of Bar Kamtzah ..

    One of the articles mentions, inter alia, a similar circumstance during Obama admin in 2014 when advisors came to 2014 meeting on Russia with certain ideas, but when they heard President advocating the opposite, they did not present their views.

    Compare with Trump who had a number of people who contradicted him, sometimes he listened to them, sometimes he did not. sometimes he was right, sometimes he was not. Most of that became public before there was an action, so there were proper discussions in the society. Abrahamic accords and giving lethal weapons to Ukraine was done against State dept ideas, dealing with IS was done by allowing Dept of Defense do what they were not allowed by Obama.

    #2003999
    Reb Eliezer
    Participant

    We have never had so many resignations as by Trump. Why don’t the Biden advisors resign?

    #2004153

    RebE,> Why don’t the Biden advisors resign?
    This is exactly the question everyone is asking. There is a Marine LtCol who just asked this question while still in uniform and is losing his position….

    According to what I read, they do not resign because they (1) share his views to begin with, especially those without military experience (all of them in close circle except the SecDef) (2) they have nowhere to go, they grew in politics with Biden, they don’t have any other home. Again, not my view, the lefty investigators who are trying to think over the disaster. If they were to publish this earlier, maybe things would have gone differently.

    Look up, for example, Sec of State bio: he went to right schools, then was deputy of this and deputy of that. His achievements include developing this and that policy, including the infamous Biden’s plan to tri-partition Iraq, Obama’s (non) “responses” to Crimea and Syria. His couple of years in “private” sector earned him a $1 mln for consulting private companies how to get contracts with the government that he just worked for. If he quits and burns bridges to the government, nobody will ever hire him.

    #2009950
    scjournal
    Participant

    Amazing

    #2010123
    huju
    Participant

    Biden is thinner and has more hair. Also had more votes in 2020 election – popular and electoral.

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