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    rachriv
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    Hi everyone, I was hoping someone could clear up my confusion I have about TVs in religious households. I know that many observant Jews do not watch TV and that in many communities, TVs have been banned. What I’m confused about is this: do these type of bans typically apply to the actual devise, or merely to cable/TV subscriptions? I completely understand the later, as a lot of shows are not consistent with Torah values. However, can one make a case for keeping a TV in a religious home WITHOUT a subscription and only using it to watch DVDs which have been carefully selected?

    Does anyone share this view? Is it common in any religious community for families to have TVs only for watching DVDs, but not cable? (What about shows like Shistel, for example, or shiurim on DVD? What about programs like BBC’s Planet Earth, which could arguably be used to increase enjoyment, understanding and wonder for Hashem’s natural world?)

    I know many religious children especially are not permitted to watch TV, but I noticed Eichler’s in Brooklyn has a sizeable DVD selection with many options for children. Some shows like Shalom Sesame (for example) could maybe even be used to stimulate a children’s interest/enthusiasm/excitement towards Judaism.

    What does everyone else think? How common is it for religious households to have TVs *just* for watching appropriate DVDs? Would you consider this for your household or no?

    #1191368
    Lightbrite
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    I know at least one religious family who has a tv and ones that don’t. My friends who do are the children of baal teshuva and chassidish.

    Based on imamother threads, sometimes having children watch a religious children’s DVD is the most realistic way that some mothers juggle their duties in a busy household.

    I think that DVDs that have religious music and teach Hebrew are great. Though I am just one person and still growing in observance.

    It’s a good question. Honestly I think it depends on the family and the family’s needs. I am not sure if people are comfortable outing their tv watching, even if it’s just DVDs, IRL.

    #1191369
    👑RebYidd23
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    Does TAG remove TV capability from TVs?

    #1191370
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
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    It depends on the community and the individuals. Almost everyone I know does not have a tv. Most people whom I know would not want their kids watching even “kosher” DVD’s. There are different levels of how problematic things are and everyone is on a different level in terms of what they do.

    “Kosher” DVD’s are obviously not as bad as not-kosher ones, but there is something somewhat negative about any kind of DVD. Someone who wants to run a home that is completely Torahdik and where nothing exists but Torah will generally not want to have any kind of DVD’s in his home.

    The way a Torah Jew thinks (or is supposed to think) when confronted with a decision, is not: Is there anything wrong with it? But rather, will this bring me closer to Hashem? Is this the best way that I can be utilizing my time? Will having this in my home make my home a Torahdik home?

    Our home is supposed to be a “Mikdash” (Temple). One should strive not to bring anything into his home that he would not bring into the Mikdash.

    Also, Torahdik Jews try to keep away any foreign influences from their families. Influences are subtle, especially when it comes to kids. The DVD may seem harmless, but foreign messages are creeping in.

    But at the same time, one must be realistic and intellectually honest. You have to realistic about your level of religious sensitivity as well as your needs. As a newcomer to Judaism, you are somewhat similar to a baal teshuva (newly religious), and you might want to be careful about “b’aal teshuva syndrome” (taking on too much too fast) and you might want to be careful about not taking on something that is too hard for you and not forbidden.

    On the other hand, in terms of kids, you might want to think about it like this: Do you really want your kids to spend their time glued to a machine? Wouldn’t you prefer that they be running around, reading, or playing with friends the way kids used to before tv was invented? Even in the secular world, many people realize that tv is not good for kids (or even for adults).

    #1191372
    Nechomah
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    I think there is a way to connect a portable DVD player to a computer monitor (no computer attachment necessary. I’m not 100% sure that you don’t need the actual computer, but it would be worth looking into it. This way you could just buy the monitor and have a portable player and no TV or computer issues would be involved.

    This comment does not negate any of the relevant issues that other posts have and will post regarding watching DVDs at all, just wanted to bring up the issue that possibly neither TV nor computer is necessary to watch a DVD.

    #1191373
    Joseph
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    #1191374
    zahavasdad
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    OP

    Some do and some dont, You are going to have to decide at some point which community you want to be a part of . If you are going to be part of the More Chassidish or Yeshivish communities then you will have to give up the TV. If you are going to be part of the more modern communities, you will not have to give up the TV

    #1191375
    dovrosenbaum
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    I wasn’t raised in a religious home, as you’d understand it. I just couldn’t give it up. For people never raised with it, that’s a different story. I would not encourage anyone to go out and get it, due to the schmutz.

    #1191376
    yehudayona
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    If you have a computer (which you probably do if you’re posting here), you can watch DVDs on that. Back in the days of VHS tapes, we bought a TV so our kids could watch Uncle Moishy videos and the like. I believe I got a model for which you could somehow disable the tuner. Using it to watch TV programs was never an issue.

    #1191377
    Avi K
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    I heard of a case where a rosh yeshiva was given a heter as his elderly shut-in father was living with him.

    #1191378
    Excellence
    Participant

    I stopped watching tv about 5yrs ago. Don’t regret it.

    I don’t want to see ads for shaving women’s legs — and more than that — yes you heard me. Foul language. Bitul Torah

    #1191379
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
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    “Some do and some dont, You are going to have to decide at some point which community you want to be a part of . If you are going to be part of the More Chassidish or Yeshivish communities then you will have to give up the TV. If you are going to be part of the more modern communities, you will not have to give up the TV”

    It’s also a question of what the right thing to do is, regardless of what those surrounding you do.

    Also, some communities contain different types of people.

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