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This one’s for the record books, folks. Arch-liberal Dr. Charlie Hall is advocating that everyone join the Conservative Party.
UK Jewish Community Reacts To The Election Of Jeremy Corbyn As Leader Of The Labour Party
(See Comment #2.)
If you read his comment, he clearly states that IF HE WERE A UK SUBJECT he would join.
I do wonder sometimes if you take things out of context on purpose or if you just get so excited that you miss half the details.
By American standards, the “Tories” (the popular name for the Conservative Party in the United Kingdom), has a platform similar to moderate republicans or conservative Democrats (supporting big government, comfortable with corporate welfare and high taxes, not overly upset about breaches of civil liberties). Anything analagous to the Tea Party (which is becoming the mainstream of the American Republican party) is considered a way out fanatic in the UK (probably becase those with such views migrated to North America a few centruies ago).
It is possible that many supporters of the Labor party as it was under Tony Blair (the “New Labour” movement) might switch to the Liberal Democrats (a merger of the classic “Whig” Liberals, and the mid-20th century “Social Democrats” who broke away from Labour when they went ultra-left period before being taken over by the aforementioned “New Labour” group). It should be noted that the two party Tories-Labour split was solid for almost 90 years (since Labour replaced the Liberals as one of the “big two” after World War I).
“Arch-liberal Dr. Charlie Hall is advocating that everyone join the Conservative Party.”
Just in case anyone thinks that I was hacked, I would definitely join the Conservative and Unionist Party (its official name) were I a UK subject and I would encourage all other UK subjects to do so.
The new leader of the UK Labour Party is that bad. Really.
I would not join the UK Liberal Democrats because that party has become hostile to Israel in recent years.
Akuperma is correct that David Cameron and Barack Obama have pretty similar political views.
As a US citizen, however, I limit my participation in other democracies’ elections so I personally will not be joining any UK party. I remain a Democrat in the US. The new mainstream of the Republican Party is as bad as the new UK Labour leader. Really.
To CharlieHall’s snide remark “The new mainstream of the Republican Party is as bad as the new UK Labour leader. Really.”.
So what’ wrong with Dr. Carson? His views on social and economic issues mesh closely with what most Orthodox Jews feels. And as a member of a small religious minority you don’t have to worry about the Church-State issues one encounters with groups such as mainstream Protestants, Catholics and Mormons. While he’s currently only in second place among Republicans, its apparent he’s the second choice of almost everyone other than Trump supporters, and combined with the fact that 2/3 of Republicans see Trump as unelectable, and no other Republican has even 10% support (Carson has well over 20 %), the face of the mainstream Republicans is a soft spoken retired African American (meaning his ancestors were slaves, unlike Obama who is desended from slave owners) Adventist.
The US equivalent of the new UK Labor leaders is Bernie Sanders, who is now in first place in the early primary states.
“So what’ wrong with Dr. Carson?”
He says that Obamacare is worse than slavery. You really don’t need to know anything else.
“The US equivalent of the new UK Labor leaders is Bernie Sanders”
Nope. Sanders doesn’t hate Israel, doesn’t give money to holocaust deniers, doesn’t want the US to give up its nuclear weapons, doesn’t want to expand coal production, and is from all indications a mentsch (albeit a completely non-religious person).
I don’t think much of Sanders’ non-interventionist foreign policy (although Rand Paul is even worse). It isn’t necessary to break up all the banks if you would just regulate them the way Canada and Israel do. And I personally caught Sanders with a false statement regarding trade. So I’m not a huge Sanders supporter. But I do like the fact that in 43 years in public life he has never run a single negative ad. Unfortunately, you can probably only get away with that in a small state like Vermont.
I don’t know why there has to be so many over-the-top comments, like comparing either Republican contenders or Sanders to that new Labour Party Head.
As far as political stances, really Cameron is similar to Obama, because both are somewhat socialist , favor open borders and a moral equivalent view. Perhaps from European guilt for the Holocaust and colonialism, Cameron is considerably less anti-Israel than Obama.
However, the main point is that no one running for office in the USofA should be like any European country, because it is the United STATES of America, not just America. We have states that are united under a federal government, not just one big all powerful government, and that is a unique thing about the US and that makes something that Europeans can never come close to.
If we were drifting to a loss of state rights before, that has been greatly accelerated under Obama.
Some Republican candidates are trying(more than others) to reassert that form of government again.
As far as that Labour candidate, I read an op-ed by a Brit and he felt that by choosing such a radical leader, much more than the guy who was just defeated, the Labour Party has doomed itself to even further loss of support. Brits don’t want such a radical guy.
If you think he’s bad, check out who he chose as Shadow Chancellor.
And Jeremy Corbyn is genuinely a figure for whom criticism is completely unnecessary, as you can just skip that and start laughing. He’s that much of a joke. Never given a clear answer in his life, refuses to sing our own National Anthem, supports holocaust deniers and terrorists, and is essentially a self-hating Brit. And he consistently backtracks and gives vapid excuses and rhetoric in his defence, whish is especially amusing as he has lived of his reputation as an ‘honest politician’. utterly laughable.
And if that wasn’t bad enough, he’s pretty much committed himself to destroying the economy through ‘The People’s’ quantitative easing, during times of growth, which any economist would tell you is economic suicide.
And, as a Conservative voter, I am absolutely thrilled he’s got in.
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