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  • #1941329
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    what does Biden’s intention when he says we must unify, in a practical sense? like what are we supposed to do? hold hands?

    second, how unifying is it to sign 17 orders on the 1st day of office, half of them just in order to reverse the policies of the trump administration?

    #1941356
    👑RebYidd23
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    You know holding hands has been forbidden since the pandemic began.

    #1941361
    ☕️coffee addict
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    All for one

    And that one is Biden

    #1941366

    As per Dem Ron wyden, “we need unity, and all it will take is adding dc and puerto rico as states,….”

    #1941369
    Gadolhadorah
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    Participant: “how unifying is it to sign 17 orders on the 1st day of office, half of them just in order to reverse the policies of the trump administration?

    Actually, it was surprising that only 8 of the 17 EOs directly reversed a Trump “policy”. If you are old enough to recall (or for some of us, too old to recall) in his first weeks in office, Trump signed close to 30 EOs reversing Obama policies. On Obama’s first week in office, Mitch McConnell promised to be “Obama’s Waterloo” and block his policies wherever possible.
    Our system of government is BROKEN as both parties have become increasingly polarized and the traditional process of finding a middle ground consensus to legislate seems a distant memory. Indeed, for Republicans, and many Dems, even using the word “compromise” is a political death wish and guarantee of facing a primary challenge.
    Biden was elected on a clear promise to reverse Trump’s immigration and environmental policies just to name a few. As a certain impeached President used to say, “promises made, promises kept”.

    #1941380
    emes nisht sheker
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    Unity and agreeing on policy are not the same thing.

    #1941371
    rightwriter
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    Participant-second, how unifying is it to sign 17 orders on the 1st day of office, half of them just in order to reverse the policies of the trump administration?”

    That’s their definition of it.

    #1941373
    jackk
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    When the Rabbi asks for unity, does he mean women should get aliyos? Take down the mechitza?

    Step one is the person who proudly announced impeachment articles should not have.

    #1941432
    ☕️coffee addict
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    I don’t think the feminists are happy with Biden’s “unity” allowing transgenders (born as male but identify as female) compete with women or go into their locker room and bathroom

    Remember, unity is incumbent on everyone else to follow the president and agree to him

    #1941560
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    @ca “all for one and that one is him.”
    so what does that mean practically?

    @tvp who is that?

    @gh
    I guess I’m too old to remember trump calling 4 unity.

    @ens
    true. so what does it mean?


    @jackk

    so Biden means we should revert back to pre liberation days?

    #1941561
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    @jackk
    “step one…should not have.” you mean Pelosi?

    #1941658
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Participant,

    “@ca “all for one and that one is him.”
    so what does that mean practically?“

    Meaning if don’t follow Biden’s views expect to be locked up or worse

    Did you see what’s going on in Russia?

    #1941682
    charliehall
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    What would become the Trump cult used to whine about Obama issuing a lot of executive orders. Never mind that he issued them at a lower rate than any President since Grover Cleveland. Trump issued executive orders at a faster rate than any President since Jimmy Carter. It is entirely appropriate for Biden to reverse some of those awful policies.

    One of the new EOs was to rejoin the World Health Organization. Another was to finally get a systematic COVID-19 policy. Another requires mask wearing on federal property and by federal employees and contractors. Two return us to sane immigration standards. Another appointed acting leaders for dozens of federal agencies so that they can function while McConnell sits on his nominations.

    Does the Trump Cult really have a problem with this?

    #1941760
    jackk
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    participant,

    Unity does not mean to let a riot that:
    1) was born of the 2 months of lies spoken and tweeted hourly by trump about the election being stolen
    2) that tried to kill members of congress
    3) that people died from
    4) and that he did not try to prevent in real time
    – have no consequences.

    #1941847
    ☕️coffee addict
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    “Does the Trump Cult really have a problem with this?“

    I guess the Biden minions have no problem with their daughter competing with men and in the same locker room as men who “claim to be women”

    #1941849
    ☕️coffee addict
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    “that tried to kill members of congress“

    What member of congress, and how did they try to kill him/her

    #1941865
    Amil Zola
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    CA there is a lot of of coverage about the plans to gas legislators in the tunnels beneath the Capitol. And yea I’m gonna ignore everyone’s whines about MSN etc.

    #1941869
    Participant
    Participant

    @Charlie but how unifying is it?

    @jackk
    oh so as long as we don’t riot then we’re unified?

    #1941876
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    GH and Charlie- you are absolutely correct, he should feel free to sign whatever he wants to put in place (even if he is not sure what it says). The kvetch is about doing it while saying you want unity. It’s okay to not want unity, and to want to reverse stuff, just call it that way.

    #1941875
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    CA – LOTS of coverage…. about the 3 oath keepers. Yup. Definitely a mainstream plan among trump supporters.

    “And yea I’m gonna ignore everyone’s whines about MSN etc.”

    Nuff said

    #1941945
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    Jackk – they must have a set of goals in mind for unity other than “let’s not do these things trump did”. Especially since the people you want to draw close don’t agree with your upteitch. So what are the factors that they are using to unify, or better worded, what steps they are taking that they believe will bridge the sides.

    I think we both know that we can’t win anyone over by telling them how wrong they are, so what inroads can they make?

    #1969259
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    thank you Tim Scott for speaking on my behalf and on behalf of all of the USA tonight.

    #1969347
    emes nisht sheker
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    What does changing some policies have to do with not wanting unity? Are you seriously suggesting that Joe Biden should not do what he was elected to do? At least he does not spend all day tweeting divisive comments… maybe something like treating your opponents with respect is what unity is. Allowing your opponents to have their way, is just dereliction of duty, not unity. Seriously, could you imagine a Rebbe calling for Achdus and then some kid getting up and demanding that he will get along with everyone if he is given $10,000? You would tell that kid to sit down and you are not getting what you want. Would that mean you are now not wanting unity? Seriously, the dialogue and language of the RepubliCONS has regressed to an embarrassing imbecilic level.

    #1969482
    Participant
    Participant

    so his call for unity means not to tweet, like almost every previous president? sounds like a whole lotta fluff and bluff to me.
    you want to know what he could do, in terms of policy? plenty. there’s plenty of opportunity to make the right feel like they’re heard and represented. he need not be as far out liberal as he does, after campaigning to be more moderate (admittedly, I don’t know if he ever promised that or just the media). he could give trump credit for what he did instead of claiming it for his administration…
    but he doesn’t tweet . united I feel.

    #1969484
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    re post 1941560

    #1969487
    Participant
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    your whole post is ridiculous, to say the least. the diversity stems from disagreement. to get up and say “let’s be united” meaning “I’m going to continue the disagreement, as is my sworn duty, but please don’t make snide comments about me” is not at all analogous to the rebbi calling for achdus and the kid demanding $.

    #1969503
    ☕️coffee addict
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    “At least he does not spend all day tweeting divisive comments…“

    That’s only because

    A) he’s sleeping most of the time
    B) he doesn’t know how to use it (previous posts were probably done by someone else)
    C) He doesn’t want to get “in trouble”

    #1969548
    jackk
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    Syag,

    I do not know exactly what Biden means by unity. I do not speak to him and have not been informed.
    I can only guess like everyone else in the CR.
    One thing is for sure and I ​have said this before in the CR.
    Since January 6th, the republicans do not deserve to be treated with any respect. They deserve to be destroyed and treated as traitors.
    All of the republican senators and congressmen who pushed for the insurrection belong in jail.
    Until they repudiate Trump’s lies, they don’t deserve to be treated with unity.

    Whining about unity after an insurrection shows the lack of honesty of the republican party.

    #1969543
    Health
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    ENS -“Are you seriously suggesting that Joe Biden should not do what he was elected to do?”

    That’s not called Elected.
    Elected means when you get most Electoral Votes legally!
    You mean he’s President because the DemonCrats Stole the Election!

    #1969553
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    Jackk,
    I very much appreciate your answer. I really wasn’t wanting to discuss Biden, unity or Trump, I was just struck by Reb E’s comment and was plotzing to hear how he would explain himself.

    Regarding your words, I don’t think we will ever agree on this. To the point that I cannot even fathom how you have come to your conclusions. And I have no doubt you would say the same about me. And since I really do not like arguing, nor do I enjoy politics, I will respectfully leave your comments unanswered, not because I think there is nothing to respond, but because I don’t see any value in it.

    #1969578
    ☕️coffee addict
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    *JUST IN:* Biden’s initial ratings for his first State of the Union, came in around 30 million viewers below Trump’s.

    Trump 2017: 48M
    Trump 2018: 46M
    Trump 2019: 46.8M
    Trump 2020: 37.2M

    Biden 2021: 13.5M

    I think something smells fishy (and it’s not the viewership)

    #1969621
    emes nisht sheker
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    You know what, since all your republiCONs are such stand up people who believe in unity, how about next time there is a Republican in office, they compromise where they don’t need to, because you believe in unity. And if you don’t believe in such unity, then frankly, don’t lecture anyone about what Biden should or should not be doing for this unity which you despise. I remember the prior four years and the derision with which many of you talked to those of us who disagreed with Trump and the scorched earth tactics in opposing Democrats you cheered on. You don’t get to define what unity is now. Your side instigated an attack on the Capitol and resulted in more deaths then Benghazi, don’t forget that. And yet, despite the despicable actions so many republiCONs engaged in, Joe Biden at least makes an effort to reach out and treat them with respect. I also did not forget McConnell’s scorched earth tactics during Obama’s admin where he tried to do all he could to prevent Obama from accomplishing anything. Biden, has signed far less EO’s then Trump, he did not go and try to upend the whole government to suit his ego and show the other side.

    Whatever, continue your pathetic discussion about Biden and unity. The side most divisive in recent history has been the Republican side, not the Democrat side. Maybe it is the result of long-term demographic trends not favoring Republicans which drives them to keep power by whatever means necessary, even if it means an insurrection.

    #1969627
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    Did bengahzi cause 4 deaths from natural causes too? Ya learn something new every day.

    #1969640
    Health
    Participant

    ENS -“where he tried to do all he could to prevent Obama from accomplishing anything.
    The side most divisive in recent history has been the Republican side, not the Democrat side”

    LOL.
    Do you think any posters here believe a word from you, besides the DemonCrats here?!?
    The first thing I remember Obama doing was taking the side of a Harvard professor over a Cop!
    No wonder the Libs nowadays are promoting Defund all Cops.
    I agree, but only Start with the Secret Service & the Capitol PD!

    How about Obama saying -“If I had a son, he would be just like Travon”?
    Is that following the Law of “Innocent until proven Guilty”?
    But us Cons are the ones who don’t believe in Unity?!?
    Stop with Your Lying & go back to your Cave!

    #1969641
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    I’m sick and tired of edited who don’t possess an ounce of reading comprehension. this thread was started to scoff one thing and one thing only: Biden’s meaningless fluff which means nothing if not less than that. this was not a discussion as to whether or not unity is good, not a discussion as to whether to compromise for the sake of unity, not a discussion as to Biden vs. trump regarding6unity or eos or anything.

    “Joe Biden at least makes an effort to reach out and treat them with respect.” this lie sums up what this thread is bout. Biden blabbed about it but did not.

    #1970503
    huju
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    “Unity” is one of those words that politicians of every stripe invoke when they want to say something that is meaningless and bland. Another good example of such a word is “change,” which only begs the question: Change from what to what else? The change I would like most is when I order schwarma, and tender a $5 bill, I get some change back. In fact, I would like change when I tender a $10.

    And just to confuse some of you nudniks, I am a registered Democrat and unregistered liberal, and the two politicians who invoked “change” the most were Bill Clinton and Barak Obama.

    #1970587

    huju, Bill Clinton also promised to build a bridge to 21st century … I sometimes wonder how many people would be rushing to take that bridge back to the 20th

    #1970590
    jackk
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    unity = make america great again. Meaningless fluff which means nothing if not less than that.
    Welcome to the world of politicians and political campaigns.

    #1970639
    huju
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    To Always_Ask_: So … what.

    #1970642
    n0mesorah
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    It was funny.

    #1970674
    ☕️coffee addict
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    I think it’s refreshing seeing people on both sides of the aisle realizing that slogans are just that, slogans.

    A slogan is just as good as the policy behind it

    #1971098

    Maybe, we should have candidates signing their plans under oath. While Mr. Biden publicly denied progressive plans in the debates, now Bidenistas point out that all these policies were somewhere on the website, so why are we surprised…

    #1971257
    Participant
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    an oath would help (somewhat) for a concrete plan. “unity” fluff can be interpreted however you want –see other posters’ claim that Biden did work toward unity, although they couldn’t explain how.

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