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May 29, 2019 6:02 pm at 6:02 pm #1735539
As much as Michelle Obama likes to spout that its the republicans that prevented her husband from accomplishing more during his 8 year presidency, republicans have never spent an entire presidents term trying to get rid of them.
Hi democrats-get OVER it. Trump is president. Do us all a favor and do your jobs. In 2 years vote someone else in.
Such an unbelievable wast of time.
And this is where are tax dollars are goingMay 29, 2019 6:28 pm at 6:28 pm #1735607JosephParticipant
“Unreasonable Democrats” is redundant. There’s never been reasonable DemocratsMay 29, 2019 6:51 pm at 6:51 pm #1735617Reb EliezerParticipant
Who walked away from infrastructure?/May 29, 2019 7:07 pm at 7:07 pm #1735625CTLAWYERParticipant
WRONG, time to go back to 11th grade US History class and pay attention this time.
Andrew Johnson of Tennessee was elected VP with Republican Abraham Lincoln in Nov 1860. Johnson, a Democrat was a Senator and did not resign his position when Tennessee left the Union and joined Confederacy.
After Lincoln’s assassination and becoming President, Johnson became the full time target of the Republican Congress.
He was impeached by the House and survived the trial in the Senate by one vote.May 29, 2019 7:38 pm at 7:38 pm #1735630Reb EliezerParticipant
What about President Clinton nothing to do with his presidency?May 29, 2019 7:47 pm at 7:47 pm #1735641
CTlawyer, isnt that a little different seeing as he was the vp, not the president that the majority of the country voted in.
Add that to the fact that he was from a state that no longer identified with the US. So it’s not a great parallel.May 30, 2019 7:54 am at 7:54 am #1735711
Trump supporters should get over the fact that they lost the house to the Democrats and can no longer protect him from impeachment.
The first 2 years impeachment wasn’t even possible.May 30, 2019 7:56 am at 7:56 am #1735708
CTL, you should go back. Lincoln’s first VP was Hannibal Hamlin of Maine. AJ was his running mate when he run for re-election. Moreover, back then the GOP was the more liberal party and those who wanted impeachment (as well as a hard line towards the South) were called radical Republicans. At that time the VP was not considered to be an assistant POTUS but mainly the person who presided over the Senate. In fact, it was not clear who would succeed William Henry Harrison. John Tyler decided by himself although some thought that he should be called “Acting President”.May 30, 2019 7:58 am at 7:58 am #1735745
1. Andrew Johnson was elected VP in 1864. Lincoln’s first VP was Hannibal Hamlin of Maine.
2. The GOP did not spend Johnson’s entire term trying to impeach him. He was not impeached until 1868. After that there were no more moves to impeach him. Giving him trouble is another matter. That is part of the system of checks and balances.May 30, 2019 9:53 am at 9:53 am #1735823lowerourtuition11210Participant
jackk: The house can impeach all day long, the senate has the final say. I doubt the Republican controlled senate will vote guilty.May 30, 2019 9:54 am at 9:54 am #1735807klugeryidParticipant
In your opinion trump should have been impeached from day one just the republicans were protecting him. ?
Did he need to do anything to get impeached? Or is it enough that the democrats didn’t want him?May 30, 2019 9:55 am at 9:55 am #1735812CTLAWYERParticipant
Trying to spin doesn’t change the facts. I called you out on your inaccuracy.
The Republicans, a new party, having won their first National election in Nov 1860, showed their true colors and have acted that way since.May 30, 2019 9:59 am at 9:59 am #1735820akupermaParticipant
While the founding fathers (who didn’t approve of political parties, and then promptly started founding them) thought that the House, Senate and President would be at each other throats, therebe preventing a dictatorship, the hypepartisan political parties also do a good job. If you want a government where decisions are made by the leader and immedciately carried out, try places such as North Korea or Germany’s Third Reich. A little bit of anarchy isn’t such a bad think – look at it as a vaccine against dictatorship.May 30, 2019 12:03 pm at 12:03 pm #1735864
Correct. That does not mean that the house should not due it’s duty if it determines that the POTUS deserves to be impeached.
No. That is not my opinion. Maybe direct your question to OP who said that ” have never spent an entire presidents term trying to get rid of them.”
Of course he has to do something to deserve to be impeached. With all the information we have NOW that is in the Mueller Report , he more than deserves it. Whether the Democrats will actually go for it , is a political question.May 30, 2019 12:04 pm at 12:04 pm #1735873
I admit, you knowledge of American history is far stronger than mine. My main point though, is that the dems have become completely unreasonable when the sitting president is not from their party. Bringing an example of republicans acting similarly at a time of civil war doesnt argue the point so wellMay 30, 2019 2:21 pm at 2:21 pm #17358842scentsParticipant
Still requires a supermajority to convict someone that is being impeached.May 30, 2019 2:25 pm at 2:25 pm #1735931ubiquitinParticipant
you have a selective memory. you say “My main point though, is that the dems have become completely unreasonable when the sitting president is not from their party”
Mcconnell said the following during Obama’s first term ““The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.””
Not to improve employment, not to come up with a workable healthcare plan is most important goal was to prevent Obama being reelected again .
you say “As much as Michelle Obama likes to spout that ..” but it sint Michelle Obama spouting it is Boener ““We’re going to do everything — and I mean everything we can do — to kill it, stop it, slow it down, whatever we can.”” regarding Obama’s agenda
This isnt newMay 30, 2019 2:25 pm at 2:25 pm #1735946
Most everyone reading this website was alive for the 8 years of Obama and remember that the Republican party was guilty of the exact thing that you are ascribing to the democrats.
(And why take a swipe at Michelle Obama ? Hmm..)
How many of the Republicans worked on and voted for Obamacare?
Why did McConnell steal a Supreme Court nominee from Obama ?
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell summed up his plan to National Journal: “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”May 30, 2019 2:25 pm at 2:25 pm #1735951Amil ZolaParticipant
Lucy, here is just one example of the republicans being completely unreasonable. This is Speaker Boehner after President Obama was elected, “We’re going to do everything — and I mean everything we can do — to kill it, stop it, slow it down, whatever we can.” This was merely one quote. I’m not really interested in the battle of quotes. Both parties must agree to compromise if our govt is to function. McConnel has been vocal on the subject. (A good example is two House Republicans attempting to stop much needed emergency funding to states who have suffered from natural disasters.) But I will add none of this is new. Back in the days of Speaker Gingrich a line was drawn in the sand. America learned that little would be accomplished unless one party dominates both the house and senate.May 30, 2019 2:26 pm at 2:26 pm #1735979
CTL, you are correct. The GOP has consistently been against slavery. It doesn’t matter if they masters are plantation owners or leftist bureaucrats.May 30, 2019 3:07 pm at 3:07 pm #1736015
I’m attirvutign this to Michelle Obama only because I just finished her book “Becoming” and found it laughable that she spends a good portion of her book bemoaning the stubborn republicans. Seems obviously hypocritical to me. Im.not saying there aren’t faults on both sides, but talking about impeachment for a whole term is like living under a rock. A new lowMay 30, 2019 9:17 pm at 9:17 pm #1736113👑RebYidd23Participant
It’s common knowledge that the difference between stubbornness and perseverance is whether or not you agree in the first place.May 30, 2019 9:18 pm at 9:18 pm #1736119
Now I understand why you are talking about Michelle.
She obviously wrote her book with the bias and purpose to make her husband appear to be the greatest president who ever lived. It is 100% hypocritical. But is sells books and democrats who read her book love it.
Trump reaches new lows every day and the republican party shrugs.May 30, 2019 10:36 pm at 10:36 pm #1736157☕️coffee addictParticipant
Yawn 😴😴😴 💤
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