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    slominer
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    What are the minhagim/protocols of making an upsherin?

    I understand that you typically give the haircut on the day of his (Hebrew) third birthday. But if that is impractical, should it be pushed off to an earlier day or rather a later day? (People who davka do it on Lag B’Omer, are bringing there 2 year old-almost 3 year old or are bringing their 3+ year old (if Lag B’Omer isn’t the bo b’yom)?

    Is it usual to bring him to a Rov or Rebbe to give the first cut of hair? Who else gets an honor of sniping some hair? And is the main part of the haircut done by a barber or by the father?

    The night of the upsherin you also make a L’Chaim. What is minimally put out to eat?

    And, perhaps most importantly, you teach him some Aleph Bais from an Aleph Bina with honey. How does that work and how is that done?

    And you bring him to cheder. Which cheder/class is he typically brought to? What does the rebbe usually do there? And must he be brought wrapped around with a Talis from the home till the cheder, so that he cannot see anything in between?

    Am I missing anything else?

    #1371741

    Geordie613
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    It sounds like you have listed all the possible minhagim. People do some or a lot of these.

    I would suggest you ask your own personal Rav what is done in your community. A lot of people in my city do what is fashionable, not necessarily what their minhag is.

    Personally, my minhag, (Yekkish) is not to wait until three at all. But we trimmed my son’s hair a bit before he turned three. On the day, we had a barber come in and give him a haircut, before a small buffet style party for family and close friends. We then went to the Rov’s house, and he cut a piece of hair from the tefillin area. The next day, he went to kindergarten (not wrapped up or anything), and the Rebbe who would teach him alef beis the next year, gathered the children round. They sang mazel tov, and he say him on his lap, put honey on a laminated card of the letters and read the first few with my son. And that was it. That’s all a lot more than I had at that age.
    Just remember that for a typical three year old, it is quite traumatic to have all those big people around making a fuss, and you’re expected to perform, when all you’re interested in are the presents that you get.

    Anyway, mazel tov and have lots of nachas

    #1371835

    iacisrmma
    Participant

    G613: You wrote “We then went to the Rov’s house, and he cut a piece of hair from the tefillin area. ” Interestingly, I was told by my rov that the “ikkur” snip is to form the peyos.

    #1371833

    iacisrmma
    Participant

    I understand that you typically give the haircut on the day of his (Hebrew) third birthday. But if that is impractical, should it be pushed off to an earlier day or rather a later day? (People who davka do it on Lag B’Omer, are bringing there 2 year old-almost 3 year old or are bringing their 3+ year old (if Lag B’Omer isn’t the bo b’yom)?

    Generally it is done bo bayom if practical. One of my sons was born during the three weeks so his upsherin was pushed off until after tisha b’av. For those who davka plan it for Lag B’omer, it is generally done before the third birthday,

    Is it usual to bring him to a Rov or Rebbe to give the first cut of hair? Who else gets an honor of sniping some hair? And is the main part of the haircut done by a barber or by the father?

    It depends. There are some who go to a rav; some have the father and grandfather’s take the first snips. At my youngest son’s upsherin we had a professional hair cutter do most of the haircut.

    The night of the upsherin you also make a L’Chaim. What is minimally put out to eat?

    Some put out light refreshments; some make a seuda (either milchigs or fleishigs). We always made a seuda for the family.

    And, perhaps most importantly, you teach him some Aleph Bais from an Aleph Bina with honey. How does that work and how is that done?
    And you bring him to cheder. Which cheder/class is he typically brought to? What does the rebbe usually do there? And must he be brought wrapped around with a Talis from the home till the cheder, so that he cannot see anything in between?

    In my experience this is actually done at the same time. If you are makpid to go from the upsherin to the cheder, the minhag is to wrap the child in a tallis. In most chadarim a specific rebbe/class is designated for the upsherin which includes showing him the aleph beis and the rebbe usually takes a lollipop, dips it in honey, and places it on the Aleph, Mem and Sof as it spells EMES.

    Hope this helps,

    #1371916

    ubiquitin
    Participant

    Did you have an upsherin? What did your parents do for yours? Can you ask them?
    If you are a Slnimer why not do what they do?

    #1371926

    Joseph
    Participant

    The Nitei Gavriel has a comprehensive discussion on this inyan regarding the upsherin.

    The yingele shouldn’t see anything tumah (hence wrapping him in a Talis when taking him from home to Yeshiva).

    #1372508

    iacisrmma
    Participant

    Joseph: do you in which cheilek of the Nitei Gavriel t can be found? Thanks

    #1372536

    Joseph
    Participant

    Sorry, I don’t have the mekor offhand.

    #1372541

    HaLeiVi
    Participant

    Machzor Vitri has some interesting Minhagim.

    #1372553

    Joseph
    Participant

    iac, Try
    נטעי גבריאל – תגלחת ילדים – חלקה
    Nitei Gavriel – Chinuch Yeladim, Halachos & Minhagim

    He says the minhag of upsherin is cited in the Radvaz 2:608 and in Sefer Mat’amim Erech Sa’aros V’Otzar Minhagei Yeshurun based on Sukkah 42a.

    #1372567

    Lubavitcher
    Participant

    The hanochas lcheider u mean ? He’s comes wrapped up in a Tallis and he licks honey off the aleph Beis (in chabad s Tanya ) and candies are thrown at him he usually goes to a Pre1a

    #1375268

    Geordie613
    Participant

    iacisrmma,
    My son has very thin hair around the Peyos area, so it would be impractical. But I was told by others that our Rov always cuts the tefilin area for 3 year old boys.

    #1376305

    iacisrmma
    Participant

    G613: EILU VEILU DIVREI ELOKIM CHAIM

    #1377691

    Sadigurarebbe
    Participant

    some like skver have the minhag to cut at two years old and not three.

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