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September 26, 2017 11:16 pm at 11:16 pm #1371566slominerParticipant
What are the minhagim/protocols of making an upsherin?
I understand that you typically give the haircut on the day of his (Hebrew) third birthday. But if that is impractical, should it be pushed off to an earlier day or rather a later day? (People who davka do it on Lag B’Omer, are bringing there 2 year old-almost 3 year old or are bringing their 3+ year old (if Lag B’Omer isn’t the bo b’yom)?
Is it usual to bring him to a Rov or Rebbe to give the first cut of hair? Who else gets an honor of sniping some hair? And is the main part of the haircut done by a barber or by the father?
The night of the upsherin you also make a L’Chaim. What is minimally put out to eat?
And, perhaps most importantly, you teach him some Aleph Bais from an Aleph Bina with honey. How does that work and how is that done?
And you bring him to cheder. Which cheder/class is he typically brought to? What does the rebbe usually do there? And must he be brought wrapped around with a Talis from the home till the cheder, so that he cannot see anything in between?
Am I missing anything else?
September 27, 2017 11:08 am at 11:08 am #1371741Geordie613ParticipantIt sounds like you have listed all the possible minhagim. People do some or a lot of these.
I would suggest you ask your own personal Rav what is done in your community. A lot of people in my city do what is fashionable, not necessarily what their minhag is.
Personally, my minhag, (Yekkish) is not to wait until three at all. But we trimmed my son’s hair a bit before he turned three. On the day, we had a barber come in and give him a haircut, before a small buffet style party for family and close friends. We then went to the Rov’s house, and he cut a piece of hair from the tefillin area. The next day, he went to kindergarten (not wrapped up or anything), and the Rebbe who would teach him alef beis the next year, gathered the children round. They sang mazel tov, and he say him on his lap, put honey on a laminated card of the letters and read the first few with my son. And that was it. That’s all a lot more than I had at that age.
Just remember that for a typical three year old, it is quite traumatic to have all those big people around making a fuss, and you’re expected to perform, when all you’re interested in are the presents that you get.Anyway, mazel tov and have lots of nachas
September 27, 2017 11:24 am at 11:24 am #1371835iacisrmmaParticipantG613: You wrote “We then went to the Rov’s house, and he cut a piece of hair from the tefillin area. ” Interestingly, I was told by my rov that the “ikkur” snip is to form the peyos.
September 27, 2017 11:37 am at 11:37 am #1371833iacisrmmaParticipantI understand that you typically give the haircut on the day of his (Hebrew) third birthday. But if that is impractical, should it be pushed off to an earlier day or rather a later day? (People who davka do it on Lag B’Omer, are bringing there 2 year old-almost 3 year old or are bringing their 3+ year old (if Lag B’Omer isn’t the bo b’yom)?
Generally it is done bo bayom if practical. One of my sons was born during the three weeks so his upsherin was pushed off until after tisha b’av. For those who davka plan it for Lag B’omer, it is generally done before the third birthday,
Is it usual to bring him to a Rov or Rebbe to give the first cut of hair? Who else gets an honor of sniping some hair? And is the main part of the haircut done by a barber or by the father?
It depends. There are some who go to a rav; some have the father and grandfather’s take the first snips. At my youngest son’s upsherin we had a professional hair cutter do most of the haircut.
The night of the upsherin you also make a L’Chaim. What is minimally put out to eat?
Some put out light refreshments; some make a seuda (either milchigs or fleishigs). We always made a seuda for the family.
And, perhaps most importantly, you teach him some Aleph Bais from an Aleph Bina with honey. How does that work and how is that done?
And you bring him to cheder. Which cheder/class is he typically brought to? What does the rebbe usually do there? And must he be brought wrapped around with a Talis from the home till the cheder, so that he cannot see anything in between?In my experience this is actually done at the same time. If you are makpid to go from the upsherin to the cheder, the minhag is to wrap the child in a tallis. In most chadarim a specific rebbe/class is designated for the upsherin which includes showing him the aleph beis and the rebbe usually takes a lollipop, dips it in honey, and places it on the Aleph, Mem and Sof as it spells EMES.
Hope this helps,
September 27, 2017 1:03 pm at 1:03 pm #1371916ubiquitinParticipantDid you have an upsherin? What did your parents do for yours? Can you ask them?
If you are a Slnimer why not do what they do?September 27, 2017 1:19 pm at 1:19 pm #1371926JosephParticipantThe Nitei Gavriel has a comprehensive discussion on this inyan regarding the upsherin.
The yingele shouldn’t see anything tumah (hence wrapping him in a Talis when taking him from home to Yeshiva).
September 27, 2017 11:11 pm at 11:11 pm #1372508iacisrmmaParticipantJoseph: do you in which cheilek of the Nitei Gavriel t can be found? Thanks
September 27, 2017 11:58 pm at 11:58 pm #1372536JosephParticipantSorry, I don’t have the mekor offhand.
September 28, 2017 12:01 am at 12:01 am #1372541HaLeiViParticipantMachzor Vitri has some interesting Minhagim.
September 28, 2017 12:04 am at 12:04 am #1372553JosephParticipantiac, Try
נטעי גבריאל – תגלחת ילדים – חלקה
Nitei Gavriel – Chinuch Yeladim, Halachos & MinhagimHe says the minhag of upsherin is cited in the Radvaz 2:608 and in Sefer Mat’amim Erech Sa’aros V’Otzar Minhagei Yeshurun based on Sukkah 42a.
September 28, 2017 2:26 am at 2:26 am #1372567LubavitcherParticipantThe hanochas lcheider u mean ? He’s comes wrapped up in a Tallis and he licks honey off the aleph Beis (in chabad s Tanya ) and candies are thrown at him he usually goes to a Pre1a
October 1, 2017 3:48 pm at 3:48 pm #1375268Geordie613Participantiacisrmma,
My son has very thin hair around the Peyos area, so it would be impractical. But I was told by others that our Rov always cuts the tefilin area for 3 year old boys.October 1, 2017 10:59 pm at 10:59 pm #1376305iacisrmmaParticipantG613: EILU VEILU DIVREI ELOKIM CHAIM
October 3, 2017 6:29 am at 6:29 am #1377691SadigurarebbeParticipantsome like skver have the minhag to cut at two years old and not three.
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