Vermin Supreme for president!

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  • #617469
    👑RebYidd23
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    He probably won’t kill most Americans.

    #1151281
    yehudayona
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    And he’s promising a free pony for every American! He’s also the only candidate who has a plan for dealing with the zombie threat.

    #1151282
    bentzion
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    As well as a most marvelous plan to solve the middle east crisis!!!

    #1151283
    👑RebYidd23
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    I don’t like his plans for the middle east, but I like his plan to use zombies as a renewable energy source.

    #1151284
    nishtdayngesheft
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    Well the current leading candidates, most certainly the Demcrat, are really supreme vermin. What we need is the fact opposite, that may be his in.

    #1151285
    screwdriverdelight
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    Like many political articles and Rebyidd23’s posts, I’m unsure if this thread is serious.

    #1151286
    👑RebYidd23
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    I really do want to vote for Supreme this election.

    #1151287
    shuli
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    I’d vote for Supreme, but with his tooth-brushing initiative, maybe he might have some kind of deals with these big toothpaste businesses? I’m wary of supporting a candidate with ties to big business.

    #1151288
    WolfishMusings
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    Like many political articles and Rebyidd23’s posts, I’m unsure if this thread is serious.

    Actually, believe it or not, there is a person named Vermin Supreme and he *is* a candidate for the Presidency and he will, in all likelihood, not kill most Americans.

    Of course, it’s not a serious run for office, but it’s certainly not something made up by RebYidd. A simple Google search will verify.

    The Wolf

    #1151289
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Of course, it’s not a serious run for office

    Trump’s didn’t start as one either.

    #1151290
    WolfishMusings
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    Trump’s didn’t start as one either.

    True. Given that, perhaps there is hope that Supreme can overtake Trump. He’d certainly be a better candidate. 🙂 :p

    The Wolf

    #1151291
    ☕️coffee addict
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    I totally agree with his idea of research for time travel to kill hitler ym”s, do you realize how many Jews that saves?

    I think he should also have Germany pay for it, they could use up all the saved money from reparations they have for it

    #1151292
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    ca – that comment really gives me goosebumps. i have NO doubt you were joking, but that comment felt like an affirmation that the holocaust was a hashgocha-less cause and affect happening of nature if I ever heard one. **shudder**

    #1151293
    The Queen
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    Coffee, Dumbledore should be able to help out with that.

    #1151294
    WolfishMusings
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    I totally agree with his idea of research for time travel to kill hitler ym”s, do you realize how many Jews that saves?

    Do you know how many Jews that kills?

    If you think about it, practically everyone who had ancestors in Europe during WWII had their lives irrevocably altered by the Holocaust. Remove that massive event, and lots of people who currently exist would never do so.

    I would probably still be here (as all my ancestors were in NYC by 1915), but my kids wouldn’t… my wife’s parents would never have come to the US if the Holocaust had not occurred and Eeees’ and I would never have met.

    Of course the Holocaust should never have happened, but now that it has, taking action to “undo” it would cause millions of Jews to simply cease to exist. Should these millions be sacrificed for the millions who died?

    I’m not willing to sacrifice my kids for someone who died 75 years ago. Does that make me a selfish piece of garbage? Perhaps, but so be it.

    The Wolf

    #1151295
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    If time travel were possible, someone from the future would have already come back.

    That having been said, Wolf, perhaps you would have married someone else, as Ees would have, perhaps people who otherwise would have perished.

    Yes, some people would have not existed (in their physical form), but the sum total would be much greater (all things being equal), and probably all of the same neshamos would have come down, plus more.

    Probably, you would still have kids who you would love equally to your actual kids, and your kids would still exist, perhaps in different bodies.

    #1151296
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    The answer to your question, Do you know how many Jews that kills?is zero.

    #1151297
    WolfishMusings
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    The answer to your question, Do you know how many Jews that kills?is zero.

    OK, “kills” is perhaps the wrong word. The more correct terminology would be “wipes out of existence.”

    The Wolf

    #1151298
    WolfishMusings
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    Probably, you would still have kids who you would love equally to your actual kids, and your kids would still exist, perhaps in different bodies.

    Then they’d be actual different people and not my kids.

    Like I said, I’m not willing to give up their existence for someone who died three quarters of a century ago. If that makes me a selfish piece of garbage, I’ll cop to it.

    The Wolf

    #1151299
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    The more correct terminology would be “wipes out of existence.”

    Still too strong. According to you, prevents their existence, although I don’t agree with that either.

    Then they’d be actual different people and not my kids.

    No, they would be your kids.

    I’m not willing to give up their existence for someone who died three quarters of a century ago

    It’s not just for someone who lived 75 years ago, it’s also for their descendants, some of whom would be your kids and grandkids.

    Anyhow, any comment on my proof that there is no time travel?

    #1151300
    WolfishMusings
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    Anyhow, any comment on my proof that there is no time travel?

    What if it was possible, but only in a limited sense (i.e. no more than 100 years in any direction) and won’t be invented for 200 years?

    The Wolf

    #1151301
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    I don’t know why, once conceptually it were possible (I don’t think it is), there would be a limit. Even if there was, they would bring the technology back in time as many times as necessary to have already done so.

    #1151302
    Health
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    DY -“Anyhow, any comment on my proof that there is no time travel?”

    I heard that one of the Tiroozim to Yediah & Bechira is that Hashem does time travel!

    Is it possible for humans to do it? IDK if Hashem would give that to humans. I doubt it; because why do you need such a thing as Teshuva? Just go back in time and correct whatever it is!

    #1151303
    WolfishMusings
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    I don’t know why, once conceptually it were possible

    It would depend on how you choose to do it. Here’s one hypothetical whereby you would be limited.

    Imagine a model as follows:

    You create a stable wormhole in the year 2016.

    You keep one end of it (side A) here on earth and fly the other end (side B) on a ship a near c speed, which then time dilates into the future.

    You could, in theory, travel from the future (side B) to the present (side A), but you could only go to a time when the wormhole existed. Since it did not exist before 2016, you cannot use it to travel further back in the past than that point.

    The Wolf

    #1151304
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    If conceptually it were possible, there would probably be more than one way to do it.

    Either way, you should at least agree that going back to pre WWII is disproven.

    #1151305
    WolfishMusings
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    Either way, you should at least agree that going back to pre WWII is disproven.

    Not necessarily.

    It’s logically possible that WWII turned out really, really, really badly for the the world with lots more deaths worldwide, and that someone in the future calculated all the possible scenarios and determined that the one we know of held the least damage worldwide and, as a result, created the reality we know today. In other words, it could be argued that the war was inevitable and that the outcome we had (as horrific as it was) was the best possible outcome (i.e. that all the other outcomes had far, far more deaths worldwide).

    The Wolf

    #1151306
    Sam2
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    Health: Hashem doesn’t “time travel”. Hashem isn’t bound by time. There is a tremendous difference there.

    #1151307
    Health
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    Sam2 -“Health: Hashem doesn’t “time travel”.”

    Did you read the whole post? To answer the question of Yediah & Bechira, it’s like he does time travel. Even though you have a choice, he knows what you chose!

    #1151308
    Sam2
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    Health: I did read your post. You didn’t say “it’s like”, you said that “one of the Tiroozim [sic]… is that Hashem does time travel!” Being outside of time is not time travel. It’s something else.

    Also, the “outside of time” answer is not saying that even though you have a choice, He knows what you choose. That is R’ Saadya Gaon’s opinion, that God knowing has nothing to do with what we choose. The outside of time answer is a separate concept.

    #1151309
    Health
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    Sam2 -“That is R’ Saadya Gaon’s opinion, that God knowing has nothing to do with what we choose”

    I answered the question of Yediah & Bechira. According to you, you haven’t answered the Steerah!

    #1151310
    yehudayona
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    Vermin’s looking better and better. Time to research how to do a write-in.

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