May 23, 2012 8:26 pm at 8:26 pm #603563
The official statement by the Ichud Office (or actually the office that the outsourced the video hookup feed to) in regards to distributing the video of the Asifa was:
That being said, few people know the video is (as of this posting) available online, courtesy of the Ichud. It is a copy of the video feed that was shown to the “satellite” locations.
The video (for now) can be accessed at http://www.studiosevent.com/newscenter/?id=poshny_tagddcf5
Skip to 55 minutes in to the video when the event started.May 23, 2012 8:40 pm at 8:40 pm #876232mikehall12382Member
so you are posting a link to an online video, talking about how bad the internet is….am I the only one who finds this funny?May 23, 2012 8:47 pm at 8:47 pm #876233
I’m sure plenty of people find it funny. They also miss the point.
This feed was not supposed to be available for the public, it was used to send the video to the remote locations where the asifa was viewed.
The point of the asifa was to stress that having web access is not recommended wherever possible to avoid (and that unfiltered access is unacceptable under all circumstances).
Making the recording easier to access through the web (intentionally) would have been somewhat hypocritical, but using the internet to send the feed to remote locations is not.May 23, 2012 8:59 pm at 8:59 pm #876234
Is it possible to download the video feed from the above site and save it to your computer?
Anyone, please?May 23, 2012 8:59 pm at 8:59 pm #876235
Was that really the point of the asifa – the two lines being thrown around was “We can’t live with it, we can’t live without out it.” and “Using technology responsibly Al Pi Torah”. How is sending out the link irresponsible use of technology Al Pi Torah?May 23, 2012 9:15 pm at 9:15 pm #876236cherrybimParticipant
Why do you say that it would be hypocritical? Is it assur to see/hear Torah via the Internet? Certainly not!May 23, 2012 10:39 pm at 10:39 pm #876237EzratHashemMember
The audio on the every recording I’ve heard/seen is very hard to understand. I still don’t have a clear idea of what was said at the asifa. Won’t someone post a transcript/translation of all of the speeches? I heard that some Rabbaim said to ban internet, some said no,only a filter, is this even correct? Very confusing outcome.May 24, 2012 1:09 am at 1:09 am #876238May 24, 2012 1:46 am at 1:46 am #876239
Just Smile: Thanks a bunch, that was very helpful. Did you copy that off the link in your OP? How did you manage to save it?
P.S. I thought YT had a time limit for videos. How’d you get past that?May 24, 2012 3:10 am at 3:10 am #876240
no need to ask so many questions 😉
I did get it from the original link.
YouTube has a fifteen minute time limit unless you verify your account. Then it’s a 10 hour time limit.May 24, 2012 4:09 am at 4:09 am #876241
Thanks again, JS. I was trying to save a copy for myself. I presume saving it from YT will be a lower quality than if done from the original. If it is complicated to describe how to do from the original, that’s okay. I appreciate your help.May 24, 2012 4:24 am at 4:24 am #876242dash™Participant
I did – here you go
How did you manage that? I’ve been searching for a tool that reliably extracts Silverlight videos.May 24, 2012 4:37 am at 4:37 am #876243
Why do you say that it would be hypocritical? Is it assur to see/hear Torah via the Internet? Certainly not!
I assume you’re addressing me.
Note that I said “somewhat” hypocritical. You are correct, that it’s not inherently assur to access the web for purposes of Torah. The issue here seems primarily to be that the yetzer horah to access inappropriate material is so strong, that the poskim feel that unfiltered web access is completely assur, and even filtered is only acceptable if necessary.
There is a quandary as to whether or not Torah based sites are worthwhile. The upside is quite obvious. The downside is much more subtle, but quite compelling as well.
Since even filtered web access is not recommended (for obvious reasons – filters are far from perfect or impenetrable), there’s a disadvantage to these types of sites’ availability, since their existence encourages, to some degree, web access.
By not (intentionally) making it easier for someone with web access to obtain a recording of the event, the organizers are being mechazek those who have made the commendable decision to keep away from all web access.May 24, 2012 4:44 am at 4:44 am #876244AZOI.ISParticipant
AMAZING AMAZING AMAZING!
In a million years Id never have believed Id be so overcome with emotion the entire time I watched it, watching some parts over and over! (I cried like a baby at times).
Whoever made it available, be gebentched!!!!!May 24, 2012 4:45 am at 4:45 am #876245Sam2Participant
Just Smile: Thank you very much. I had been wanting to hear what R’ Matisyahu Salomon had said. I was shocked when they said the Seder Slichos at the very end though.May 24, 2012 5:13 am at 5:13 am #876246Eli MansourParticipant
Your need a screen recorder Program to capture the video.May 24, 2012 7:35 am at 7:35 am #876247Aishes ChayilParticipant
‘You are correct, that it’s not inherently assur to access the web for purposes of Torah.’
somehow the feeling I got was that filters were a secondary solution.
The REAL MESSAGE was ‘get rid of the internet period'(maybe not for pple who need it for parnosoh)
Am I the only here who was reading between the lines, or did others get the same feeling?
If thats the case, how do you square that with the above quote made by DASS YOCHID,?May 24, 2012 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm #876248HockandahalfMember
This seems to be the magazine that was supposed to have been given out at the asifaMay 24, 2012 1:05 pm at 1:05 pm #876249
hershi, dash and Ygrazi – I used a screen recorder (Windows Media Encoder) and left it running overnight – you can even see my mouse on the right side of the screen.
I do have a higher res version then what I uploaded to YouTube (this version was 5.x GB) – I may upload it to a webserver. If I do I’ll let you knowMay 24, 2012 1:56 pm at 1:56 pm #876250
I said “inherently”.May 24, 2012 2:15 pm at 2:15 pm #876251
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