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  • #1770549

    csr1
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    Yes, Rabbi Noach Weinberg was a great man. But what does this have to do with Tisha B’Av. Tisha B’Av is a day of aveilus, not a day to sit and watch videos. Could you imagine someone sitting shiva (lo aleinu) and watching videos all day? We need to bring the aveilus back to Tisha B’Av. The gemora says, “Anyone who is not misaveil on Yerushalayim, will not be zoche to participate in its simcha.” Perhaps Tu B’Av would be a good day for these videos.

    #1770649

    These videos are normally shown in the afternoon and are a Mussar lesson.

    #1770660

    csr1
    Participant

    It’s a long stretch to aveilus

    #1770695

    lakewhut
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    Part of it is for Aish to raise money and part of it is to teach a lesson. Watch it for yourself and see.

    #1770689

    apushatayid
    Participant

    if you think these videos are a bad idea on tisha b’av, dont watch them. very simple. i solved your problem for you, just like that. now you can move on to the next big thing plaguing your life.

    #1770716

    Lightbrite
    Participant

    Hello CR… What videos?

    What am I missing here? Are they showing videos in schools or something? Are these videos playing on street corners? In shuls? How do other posters know about these videos?

    Wondering please… thank you!

    #1770712

    csr1
    Participant

    apushata: Your answer is similar to those who say if you don’t think women should not dress pritzusdikly, then don’t look.

    #1770752

    ubiquitin
    Participant

    Fantastic news csr1, I’m here to answer your questions!

    quick disclaimer,: I havent seen the video you mention, but I’m assuming its some sort of kiruv promoting stuff

    ” But what does this have to do with Tisha B’Av. ”
    1) Chazal tell us that the beis hamikdash was destroyed because of sinas chinam. What better way to rectify that than by promoting love among klal yisorel, and what better way to show love for klal yisorel than to bring them closer to Hashem
    2) how sad that on Tissha baav so many don’t know what we once had, sadder still they don’t know what we have today and could have tomorrow if enough of us want it. The onl yway they will know about the churban, is for us to be mekarev them
    3) As a result of this galus we have lost many to assimilation etc. There lack of observence is only as a result of the churban

    hope those help!

    Anything else I can help you with?

    #1770780

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    Csr1,

    I can’t speak for aish but for cchf I can say those who don’t learn from the past are doomed to repeat it

    #1770809

    Thinking out loud
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    @csr1
    Forgive my long reply, but if you read it fully, you will see where I have directly addressed your posts.

    Tisha B’av is indeed a day of sadness and mourning. We have a mesora of how to spend the time before chatzos, focused completely on the churban, and its devastating impact on our lives throughout galus. We do this by reciting kinos, painful, emotion laden dirges, written by our leaders referencing the details of the destruction of the Bais Hamikdosh, the dispersion of Klal Yisrael into galus, and the terrible tragedies we have experienced throughout this long galus.

    At chatzos, the tone changes somewhat. Although we are not supposed to distract ourselves from the mourning that is the essence of the day, we are PERMITTED to do other things as needed. I don’t know the source, but there does come a time in the day, where we talk about the future, teshuva, and hope for a return of the shechina to Eretz Yisrael, with the coming of Moshiach.

    Chazal tell us that in any generation that the Bais Hamikdosh is not rebuilt, it is as if that generation is equally responsible for its destruction as we were at the time of the churban. In other words, we need to make changes in OUR lives, in the areas that we have been told would have prevented the churban, and as it follows, can reverse it, and lead to the return of the Bais Hamikdosh, and the open manifestation of the Shechina, with the coming of Moshiach Tzidkeinu.

    Some people are able to maintain the focus on the enormous tragedy of our continued exile by learning parts of Torah that refer to galus, and its causes, or reading intense, painful books and stories of the terrible things that have happened to our nation as a whole, even in recent times. An example of this would be books describing the violence of the crusades, the fires of the Spanish Inquisition, and most recently, the horrors of the Nazi holocaust.

    For many, it is difficult to maintain that focus for an entire day. Others, due to the physical burden of the fast itself, find it difficult to learn, or even read. Being that some activities are permitted after chatzos, they become distracted from the meaning of the day altogether. It is these conditions that have prompted some organizations to create programs that focus on mussar, and self introspection, with the goal of encouraging us to make the changes necessary to bring geulah. It is a different, less intense way to stay connected to the severity of our remaining in galus.

    This galus is said to have been caused by “sinas chinam”, which is translated as BASELESS hate or disregard for other observant Jews, because of perceived imperfection, or simply because of (non-halachic) cultural differences. Over the years, events have been organized, to provide excellent lectures on the topics that are appropriate for Tisha B’av, specifically improving our interpersonal standards as required by Torah. These live events feature talented speakers who educate, and remind us of our obligation to do teshuva, and thus hopefully precipitate the coming of Moshiach and the Geula. In addition, there are masterful video presentations available, geared to acknowledging such shortcomings, and hopefully inspiring us to change our attitudes, and behaviors, with the same intended goal, of making us worthy once again.

    In more recent years, there has been movement to challenge us to recognize that the overwhelming loss of Jews to intermarriage, is equally as tragic and devastating as the murder of our brethren. This is a unique tragedy to our generation. Millions of Jews are either intentionally, or due to circumstance, ignorant of our heritage, and thus almost guaranteed to sever their ties to Judaism. This reality has been referred to as a Spiritual Holocaust. Each individual who cuts himself off, also cuts off untold numbers of potential descendants from Torah observance. Their right of passage to Eternity is being lost forever. This dire situation should disturb us as much as any physical threat to our brothers.

    There are individuals who have been attempting to wake us up to this reality, recognize it for the tragedy that it is, and INSPIRE us to care about our brothers, and ACT before they are lost forever. In an effort to impress the seriousness of this message to us, video presentations have been created to be shown on Tisha B’av, highlighting the lives and activities of individuals who recognize[d] the severity of this threat, and did not sit idly by while other Jews are being lost. The intention is to sensitize us to this form of destruction within our nation, and inspire us to act accordingly. The loss of masses of Jews to assimilation, is also an example of epic destruction to our Nation, and should be no less disturbing than the holocaust.

    The message is: if you could save just ONE Jew from a train headed to Auschwitz, would you? If you can prevent the termination of just ONE Jewis family’s ETERNITY, how can you not?

    For those who can maintain their awareness throughout the day, continuously mourning, and feeling the profound tragedy of our continued exile, such videos may be considered somewhat of an entertaining distraction, and perhaps should be viewed at a different time. For many others, such videos assist in feeling appropriate distress of our current Galus, and hopefully inspire them to care, and make a difference. In this way, Tisha B’av afternoon changes from a time of mindless distraction to meaningful inspiration for change that will hopefully bring the Geula. Individuals ought to be honest with themselves about what is or is not going to keep their attention properly focused on the sadness of Tisha B’av.

    #1770814

    Thinking out loud
    Participant

    @ Lightbrite
    On Tisha B’av itself, if there is no event located in your location, you can watch online programs applicable to the day.
    Possibly on this site, and others, there will be a livestream of lectures pertaining to the day. Use google to find Tisha B’av programs.
    There are also programs presented by the Chofetz Chaim Heritage Foundation, and Project Inspire, in many locations throughout the world. If none are near you, you can probably watch them online for a fee.

    Again, use google to find Tisha B’av programs video.

    I hope that helps.

    #1770816

    csr1
    Participant

    Ubiquitin: I agree with what you say. However, the main avodah of Tisha B’Av is aveilus. For instance, it is ossur to say hello to another Jew on Tisha B’Av. If the avodah of the day is fixing sinas chinam, we should going around saying hello to all Jews. Yes, we must fix sinas chinam, but we have the rest of the year for that. Tisha B’Av is when we focus on what we are missing — the Bais Hamikdash. If we truly felt the loss, then, after Tisha B’Av we can start working on the sinas chinam.

    #1770935

    ubiquitin
    Participant

    “However, the main avodah of Tisha B’Av is aveilus.”

    csr1

    Why will you take a break from aveilus during mincha to read Dirshu Hashem What does that have to do with aveilus?

    #1771059

    apushatayid
    Participant

    “apushata: Your answer is similar to those who say if you don’t think women should not dress pritzusdikly, then don’t look.”

    Actually its not. You believe videos are wrong, dont watch them, period. Say kinnos. Learn megillas eicha. Go to the beis hakvaros. Mourn the shechina in galus. Others sitting and watching a video have zero bearing on you and how you spend your day.

    The only way the 2 situations are analogous is if someone followed you around all day with a portable video player strapped to his chest playing a video. Is THIS the problem?

    #1771071

    apushatayid
    Participant

    “Tisha B’Av is when we focus on what we are missing — the Bais Hamikdash.”

    Some choose to focus on WHY it is missing and use the day to motivate themselves to correct it. You spend the day in a way that is most appropriate and meaningful to you, others will spend the day in a way that is most meaningful and appropriate for them. If you cant fargin them that, perhaps THAT should be what you work on for yourself , Tisha B’av and the rest of the year.

    #1771096

    Lightbrite
    Participant

    Thinking out loud: Thank you thank you THANK YOU!! 🙂

    Yay, wow, I had no clue.

    Thank you for informing me of these Tisha B’Av video programs! 🙂

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