March 30, 2020 10:39 pm at 10:39 pm #1844998TnewmanParticipant
I have no doubt the passing of Reb Yosel Neumann, a’h, at this time was to draw our attention to what has happened in the Town of Ramapo to cause the all the makos of Pirkei Avos Perek ה, Mishnah י’א to be occuring. Even exile for we are all exiled now from our shuls and yeshivos.
The following is copied from a post on LinkedIn:
“I would like to ask two questions of my connections who consider themselves “frum”.
1- Does anyone actually believe the mishna in Pirkei Avos “דֶּבֶר בָּא לָעוֹלָם עַל מִיתוֹת הָאֲמוּרוֹת בַּתּוֹרָה שֶׁלֹּא נִמְסְרוּ לְבֵית דִּין”
“Pestilence comes to the world for death penalties according to the Torah, that are not administered by Bais Din” ?
2- The only explicit death penalty I can find that Hashem says He specifically will administer is this:
כָּל־אַלְמָנָ֥ה וְיָת֖וֹם לֹ֥א תְעַנּֽוּן׃
You shall not ill-treat any widow or orphan.
אִם־עַנֵּ֥ה תְעַנֶּ֖ה אֹת֑וֹ כִּ֣י אִם־צָעֹ֤ק יִצְעַק֙ אֵלַ֔י שָׁמֹ֥עַ אֶשְׁמַ֖ע צַעֲקָתֽוֹ׃
If you do mistreat them, I will heed their outcry as soon as they cry out to Me,
וְחָרָ֣ה אַפִּ֔י וְהָרַגְתִּ֥י אֶתְכֶ֖ם בֶּחָ֑רֶב וְהָי֤וּ נְשֵׁיכֶם֙ אַלְמָנ֔וֹת וּבְנֵיכֶ֖ם יְתֹמִֽים׃
and My anger shall blaze forth and I will put you to death by the sword, and your own wives shall become widows and your children orphans.
Unfortunately I know at least 3 widows who have been severely mistreated. One at the hands of National Council of Young Israel and two at the hands of “frum”officials of Ramapo and Lakewood. It seems pretty clear to me this is the reason we have a worldwide pestilence. So what can we do about it?”March 31, 2020 3:19 am at 3:19 am #1845125Lamdan LLCParticipant
“We need a Pinchas to take action to stop the magefah!!”
We had a Pinchas. R’ Rabinowitz spent many years (even after being diagnosed with cancer R”L) bringing awareness to the dangers of the internet, and more specifically, smartphones.
מִיתוֹת הָאֲמוּרוֹת בַּתּוֹרָה שֶׁלֹּא נִמְסְרוּ לְבֵית דִּין
Means transgressions that are punishable by Kares, Misa B’dei Shamayim…
“It seems pretty clear to me this is the reason we have a worldwide pestilence.”
Are you claiming to know the ways of Hashem? I highly doubt that anyone that has an inkling of Heavenly Chesbonos would possess a Linkedin account, or internet at all, for that matter.
IF it is as you say, that is a terrible sin they are doing. That being said, it is WAAAYYYY too easy to EXTROspect and blame others’ shortcomings as the cause of our misfortunes. How about some INTROspection?March 31, 2020 7:51 am at 7:51 am #1845149lowerourtuition11210Participant
WOW, I never realized that there are neviim alive today who know why hashem has sent this mageifa.March 31, 2020 7:54 am at 7:54 am #1845152ready nowParticipant
There are 36 hidden tzaddikim. They are already praying. Have faith in Hashem only and pray too.March 31, 2020 8:17 am at 8:17 am #1845174rationalParticipant
Actually, we need scientific knowledge to stop the mageifah.
The solution has certainly not emanated from these who claimed that “it is no worse than the common cold” or those rabbonim who thought that large numbers of talmidim learning in a small beis medrash would do the trick.March 31, 2020 9:23 am at 9:23 am #1845179JosephParticipant
There are people today who can advise us the reason why Hashem sent this mageifa.March 31, 2020 9:24 am at 9:24 am #1845188lowerourtuition11210Participant
You say we need a Pinchas who remembered a halachah and acted. He wasn’t trying to stop the mageifa. He acted as that was the halacha said to do.o As a result of him acting in accord with halacha hashem stopped the mageifa.March 31, 2020 11:10 am at 11:10 am #1845211
Sadly the person who is ranting on LinkedIn is a mentality unstable person who has a grudge against the Town, to take anything he says as fact or nevois is absurd.March 31, 2020 12:15 pm at 12:15 pm #1845247GadolhadorahParticipant
Save the new age spiritualism, kabalistic segulahs, self-anointed prophets and gypsy fortunetelling for the post-virus victory parties. Hashem endowed a number of our brothers and sisters with incredible intellect needed to develop and execute public health, diagnostic and treatment strategies to overcome the virus and they are well on their way to success. If some of the mindless behaviors reported here on YWN among a small fringe of the Chareidi community would gain control of themselves, the victory will come sooner rather than later.March 31, 2020 1:18 pm at 1:18 pm #1845238Reb EliezerParticipant
The Yabia Omer (8,37) at the end brings from many that הפיגם in beginning of the mishna of Shviis 9, when read in reverse מגיפה according to the Tiferes Yisroel a red cabbage is a segula. Some say to carry rue.March 31, 2020 2:05 pm at 2:05 pm #1845239
Joe -“There are people today who can advise us the reason why Hashem sent this mageifa.”
Like Rav Chaim Shlit’a:
“Everyone must be mechazek to refrain from Lashon Harah and rechilus as it states in Arachin 15b: [Why is a leper so different, that the Torah states: “He shall dwell alone; outside of the camp shall be his dwelling” (Vayikrah 13:46)? He (Rabbi Chaninah) answered: By speaking badly] he separated between a husband and wife and between one person and another; therefore he is punished with tzara’as, and the Torah says: “He shall dwell alone; outside of the camp shall be his dwelling.”
They must further strengthen themselves in the midah of humility and to be maavir al midosav (let things slide) as the pirush haRosh on the side of the page says explicitly in the end of Horios [14a”
Do you know anyone who was Mekabel to do anything these last 2 months?!?March 31, 2020 2:05 pm at 2:05 pm #1845273Pro schnappsParticipant
Its quite simple what the halacha says. Listen to the rabanim and the rabanim are saying to stay home. So stay home. Lemaissah its very hard even for me but Lefum tzara agra.March 31, 2020 2:05 pm at 2:05 pm #1845321rationalParticipant
yes, and the word מגיפה written differently is also גם יפה, “quite beautiful”. feel better already?March 31, 2020 10:23 pm at 10:23 pm #1845244
rational -“Actually, we need scientific knowledge to stop the mageifah.
The solution has certainly not emanated from these who claimed that “it is no worse than the common cold” or those rabbonim who thought that large numbers of talmidim learning in a small beis medrash would do the trick.”
BTW, I’m trying to work with pharmaceutical companies to initiate treatments, that I’m sure will work.April 1, 2020 7:47 am at 7:47 am #1845663
“BTW, I’m trying to work with pharmaceutical companies to initiate treatments, that I’m sure will work.”
Your sure? you did double blind studies? you have data to back it up?April 1, 2020 1:26 pm at 1:26 pm #1845712
Nosaychel -“Your sure? you did double blind studies? you have data to back it up?”
IDK who you are in real life, but I’ll respond to you anyways.
All I did was take real research from NIH & put it all together. DO You think pharm companies don’t know how to get approval from the FDA?!? I guess only YOU KNOW about Double blind studies?!?
You should read my post to JOE Above!April 1, 2020 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm #1845787
Actually I am a Safety Engineer with a minor in health sciences who worked for FDA at one point before going to work private sector, working for home theses days, I just love people who have no clue about pharmacology and think if you download public access information from a website you have the answer to all the problems. Anyway I wish you best of luck and you and your family to stay healthyApril 2, 2020 8:16 am at 8:16 am #1846097
-“minor in health sciences who worked for FDA, I just love people who have no clue about pharmacology”
So I guess you must know more than s/o whose been in Medical Science for Umteen years?!?
You actually amplify why the FDA couldln’t care less when they’ll actually approve a cure or treatment!April 2, 2020 3:52 pm at 3:52 pm #1846317
Actually I work private sector now, but I worked on the inside for a number of years, If you work in medical science [ and I doubt you do, you never stated your credentials ] you would know that downloaded internet information has zero credibility.April 2, 2020 3:54 pm at 3:54 pm #1846378yehudayonaParticipant
[Getting popcorn and a comfy chair to watch the Health vs. commonsaychel match.]April 2, 2020 5:16 pm at 5:16 pm #1846430
YY -“Getting popcorn and a comfy chair to watch the Health vs. commonsaychel match”
I would like to entertain you, but I have more important things to do.
Why do guys like Nosaychel have many SN’s?!?
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