June 25, 2019 11:10 am at 11:10 am #1746512RavkahanazadakParticipant
I am asking about the ones who look like chassidim
I always wondered who they are?
I know they have been living for hundreds of years in Jerusalem
Why are they so religious and strict if they are not chassidic.
Wy do they dress so similar to chassidim
Notably the shtreimel.
They are the only non chasidic people in israel who officially speak yiddish as a community.
Do They have an affinity for jerusalem?
How come they only live around the north but not in other areas like nachlaot, gonen, talpiot, rehavia….?June 25, 2019 2:46 pm at 2:46 pm #1746810
Many other Litvaks in Eretz Yisroel (that aren’t official Yerushalmis) also officially speak Yiddish as their first language.June 25, 2019 2:46 pm at 2:46 pm #1746809
They are the Talmidei HaGRA that came to Eretz Yisroel not long after the Vilna Gaon was niftar.June 25, 2019 3:20 pm at 3:20 pm #1746824akupermaParticipant
Yidden have been moving in and out of Yerusalayim ever the the Arabs reconquered the place and let us back in (the Christians had wiped out the previous community). There was a big wave on East Europeans in the late 18th and early 19th centuries, which has set the tone for both the Hasidische and Misnagdid communities.June 25, 2019 3:21 pm at 3:21 pm #1746829Neville ChaimBerlinParticipant
Yeah, it seems like you’re talking about Gra’niks. There are also actual Chassidim who dress that way in Jerusalem, and as far as I know, those Chassidim actually picked it up from them, not the other way around.
“Why are they so religious and strict if they are not chassidic.”
This made me chuckle. You’re not in America anymore 😉 Statistically, Chassidim are more likely than Litvishers to work (by a big margin) in Israel rather than learn full time. Even in the US, there are Livtishe communities that are arguably more radical that average Chassidim.June 25, 2019 4:48 pm at 4:48 pm #1746879Yabia OmerParticipant
There is also a Sephardic Nusach known as Yerushalmi. This is the default Sephardic rite in IsraelJune 25, 2019 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm #1746933Neville ChaimBerlinParticipant
Actually a good point by YO. Yerushalmi is not davka minhag hagra.July 1, 2019 3:45 pm at 3:45 pm #1750141Yabia OmerParticipant
“Even in the US, there are Livtishe communities that are arguably more radical that average Chassidim.”
Just curious, can you give an example?July 1, 2019 7:51 pm at 7:51 pm #1750218RavkahanazadakParticipant
They dress very strict. They are seperate from the israeli culture alot more than the average non hassidic charedi jew. They live in meah shearim.
Where did this piety come from? They are not hassidicJuly 1, 2019 11:31 pm at 11:31 pm #1750275
They are Talmidei HaGRA. They’ve been following the Vilna Gaon’s austere way of life for the past 300 years; from the time of the GRA and when they moved to Eretz Yisroel following his petira through the present day and age
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