What are yerushalmis and their origins ?

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    Ravkahanazadak
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    I am asking about the ones who look like chassidim

    I always wondered who they are?

    I know they have been living for hundreds of years in Jerusalem
    Why are they so religious and strict if they are not chassidic.
    Wy do they dress so similar to chassidim
    Notably the shtreimel.

    They are the only non chasidic people in israel who officially speak yiddish as a community.

    Do They have an affinity for jerusalem?

    How come they only live around the north but not in other areas like nachlaot, gonen, talpiot, rehavia….?

    #1746810

    Joseph
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    Many other Litvaks in Eretz Yisroel (that aren’t official Yerushalmis) also officially speak Yiddish as their first language.

    #1746809

    Joseph
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    They are the Talmidei HaGRA that came to Eretz Yisroel not long after the Vilna Gaon was niftar.

    #1746824

    akuperma
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    Yidden have been moving in and out of Yerusalayim ever the the Arabs reconquered the place and let us back in (the Christians had wiped out the previous community). There was a big wave on East Europeans in the late 18th and early 19th centuries, which has set the tone for both the Hasidische and Misnagdid communities.

    #1746829

    Neville ChaimBerlin
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    Yeah, it seems like you’re talking about Gra’niks. There are also actual Chassidim who dress that way in Jerusalem, and as far as I know, those Chassidim actually picked it up from them, not the other way around.

    “Why are they so religious and strict if they are not chassidic.”
    This made me chuckle. You’re not in America anymore 😉 Statistically, Chassidim are more likely than Litvishers to work (by a big margin) in Israel rather than learn full time. Even in the US, there are Livtishe communities that are arguably more radical that average Chassidim.

    #1746879

    Yabia Omer
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    There is also a Sephardic Nusach known as Yerushalmi. This is the default Sephardic rite in Israel

    #1746933

    Neville ChaimBerlin
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    Actually a good point by YO. Yerushalmi is not davka minhag hagra.

    #1750141

    Yabia Omer
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    “Even in the US, there are Livtishe communities that are arguably more radical that average Chassidim.”

    Just curious, can you give an example?

    #1750218

    Ravkahanazadak
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    They dress very strict. They are seperate from the israeli culture alot more than the average non hassidic charedi jew. They live in meah shearim.

    Where did this piety come from? They are not hassidic

    #1750275

    Joseph
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    They are Talmidei HaGRA. They’ve been following the Vilna Gaon’s austere way of life for the past 300 years; from the time of the GRA and when they moved to Eretz Yisroel following his petira through the present day and age

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