What are your opinions on Rav Avigdor Miller’s answer about acting good?

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  • March 2, 2018 11:26 am at 11:26 am #1479779
    ?RebYidd23
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    His answer says that it’s better to “deceive” people by behaving like a gentlemen rather than showing your true character by behaving in an ungentlemanly manner.

    March 2, 2018 3:52 pm at 3:52 pm #1479997
    Neville ChaimBerlin
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    This thread is copyright infringement and is directly comparable to kidnapping, halachically speaking.

    March 2, 2018 4:58 pm at 4:58 pm #1480005
    ?RebYidd23
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    Prove it.

    March 2, 2018 4:59 pm at 4:59 pm #1480010
    Joseph
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    Liked acting politely to someone who you feel like cursing out?

    March 2, 2018 5:11 pm at 5:11 pm #1480017
    ?RebYidd23
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    Yes, and being very nice to your wife. But you have to keep the ruse going for a lifetime.

    March 2, 2018 6:12 pm at 6:12 pm #1480020
    Joseph
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    That sounds like a wonderful idea!

    Come to think of it, I’ll bet if someone tried that approach that eventually he’ll actually come to like the person he didn’t like but always acted friendly to.

    March 3, 2018 8:34 pm at 8:34 pm #1480065
    GAON
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    Rebyid,
    You mean to ask what’s your opinion on having an opinion on Rav Miller’s ZTL opinions… 🙂

    March 3, 2018 10:52 pm at 10:52 pm #1480081
    ?RebYidd23
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    No, GAON, that’s your question.

    March 5, 2018 10:15 am at 10:15 am #1480904
    Little Froggie
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    RY.

    Exactly. That’s what Seforim write. ???? ???? ???.

    I’m still trying his trick…

    March 13, 2018 11:31 am at 11:31 am #1488092
    ?RebYidd23
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    Should I have exclusive rights to the way I paraphrased his words?

    March 13, 2018 12:49 pm at 12:49 pm #1488143
    gavriel613
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    ??? ???? ???? ?????. ???? ????? ????? ????, ??? ???? ??? ??? ???? ???
    ??”? ???? ?? ?

    This would seem to contradict the way R Avigdor Miller is quoted, Rashi says once they hated Yosef which was admittedly a Gnus, it was then a Shvach that they at least didn’t act falsely.

    Rashi’s mekor is a medrash there (BR 84:9) which contrasts the Shvotim to Avsholom who was capable of acting differently to how he really felt (Maharzav). The Matnos Kehuna calls this geneivas daas; the Yefei Toar calls it chanufa.

    Do you have a source/further information about this quote

    March 13, 2018 12:49 pm at 12:49 pm #1488147
    gavriel613
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    ????? ????? ???? ??? ? ??’ ?

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    March 14, 2018 12:23 pm at 12:23 pm #1489302
    ?RebYidd23
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    By the way, Sora S, could you explain what you meant by “constantly faking”?

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