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Dear Jack,
This fellow is not a nobody. He had (before his deep dive) more of a background in politics than the last president, and a large chunk of the current House.
Dear Ze,
You and that law maker should plan some more stops while traveling the world to experience modern terrorism.
Congo
Ecuador
Somalia
Yemen
Iran
China
Belarus
Honduras
El SalvadorOr you could wander around Mexico and advertise that the cities in the USA are ridden with crime and gangs.
Nm,
He is running for president as his very first.
It is hilarious to think that he has a snowball chance in Gehenom.Dear Jack,
I am not giving him a chance. But he is way more talented than the narcist who beat Hilliary, so no guarentees.
Avram, I apologize for gaslighting, I am not seriously discussing details of pandemic, just responding to the poster whose opinions consist of praising Russia and blaming US for everything. I am not sure is he a reader of RT, a writer at RT, or just happen to attend a shul with RT watchers.
Nom,
I would also give him a chance if he ran for Senate, House or Governor.
He is educated and sounds articulate.
Pardon moi, mademoiselle Ze Truth. You sounded pretty much like some posters here from some NY boroughs … I am now even more intrigued of your interests – from a random Kennedy to pro-Russian statements to covid anti-vaxing. Are these popular opinion in La France, or are you currently in USA and picked up these opinions here. I would appreciate an explanation of how you acquired such a combination of views. I would understand how person comes to a certain conclusion on a topic, but how did you combined all of them, that is my question.
Aaq,
I don’t care how she got these wacky opinions.
The posts are so wacky that there can’t even be a conversation about them.
It is like arguing with someone about whether the earth is flat.
Nothing will disprove them.
La terre est platte !Dear Ze,
I checked their site. No idea what your talking about. What was the title of the research?
jackk > arguing with someone about whether the earth is flat.
Why can’t you argue about that? Repeat the classicial Greek experiment with a shadow angle at different cities. Use the globe or Google Earth. Take them on a round-the-world all-paid trip, let them hold the compass and return to the same place. If people deny the facts would be different. But having unusual opinions is not a crime, it is a plague, a makkah, of our times. How do you know who is or is not a dog on Internet?
@Zetruth Then let’s talk about Kennedy. For one, who is Kennedy? What has he/she/it said or done that we should care about and why?
@Always_Ask_Questions I think the point @jackk was trying to make was that there is abundant evidence that the Earth is round and anyone who cared could easily find out. Yet, people still choose to ignore what’s literally in front of their faces and claim it’s flat. So there’s no arguing with them since no evidence will convince them!
There was a recent documentary about Flat Earthers and there were two scenes that stood out. In both of them, people procured expensive equipment and worked really hard to set up an experiment that, if it succeeded, would prove the Earth was flat. Naturally, both experiments failed and the data showed exactly the curvature expected. In both cases the people just kind of went “Huh, I guess we need to try a different experiment”.
The worst airport anywhere. Crowded, inefficient, expensive, rude employees and stormtroopers posing as traffic agents bullying people trying to pick up and drop off at Terminal 4.
Benvenue en la société de la terre plate
@Zetruth Oh, that Kennedy. Why didn’t you say so initially? A few thoughts on him. He isn’t a public figure. No one heard of him before the pandemic where he made a name for himself fear-mongering and trying to convince people of…. something. It’s not that he was called anti-vax or a conspiracy theorist, he’s literally both of those things. He is against vaccinations and theorizes (without evidence) a massive conspiracy to do….. something.
Dear Ze,
Those that are actually fighting Big Pharma suspect that RFK Jr is a shill for the pharmaceuticals. He has quite a past. Who paid for it?
Ze,
could you explain what makes you truth this RFK Jr person? Do you know him personally? Or anyone from his family? Did someone you trust recommended him? What are his credentials? As far as I know he did not achieve much in his life to be listened to, but I am willing to learn.the french are now telling us how to run our country?
sacre bleu !
they did a wonderful job, in my lifetime, to send 75,000 jews to their death, not that long ago.no, the one that rounded up 75,000 Jews and forced them on cattle cars, you moron
Here is what wiki puts as maalos of this iluy, do I need to continue further, or can I stop here.
Career: In 1982, Kennedy was sworn-in as an Assistant District Attorney for Manhattan.[10] After failing his bar exam, he resigned in July 1983.[28] That September, he was charged with heroin possession,[28] and pleaded guilty in February 1984, when he received to two years’ probation and community service.[29][30] Following his arrest he entered a drug treatment center and during his probation volunteered for the Natural Resources Defense Council. His probation ended a year early.[31] In 1984, Kennedy joined Riverkeeper as an investigator, and was promoted to senior attorney[32] when he was admitted to the New York bar in 198
@AAQ, as usual you cut and paste to suit your point, here is the rest.
Kennedy is an environmental law specialist and partner in the law firms of Morgan & Morgan and of Kennedy & Madonna, LLP,[33] and is an advocate for environmental justice.
Through litigation, lobbying, teaching, and public campaigns and activism, Kennedy has advocated for the protection of waterways, indigenous rights, and renewable energy.
In 2018, the National Trial Lawyers Top 100 recognized two law firms for winning a $289 million jury verdict in Dewayne “Lee” Johnson v Monsanto. As co-counsel at one of the firms, Kennedy was also a member of the team.
In 2000, Kennedy and environmental lawyer Kevin Madonna founded the environmental law firm Kennedy & Madonna, LLP, to represent private plaintiffs against polluters.[66] The firm litigates environmental contamination cases on behalf of individuals, non-profit organizations, school districts, public water suppliers, Indian tribes, municipalities and states. In 2001, Kennedy & Madonna organized a team of prestigious plaintiff law firms to challenge pollution from industrial pork and poultry production.[67] In 2004, the firm was part of a legal team that secured a $70 million settlement for property owners in Pensacola, Florida whose properties were contaminated by chemicals from an adjacent Superfund site.Common, sorry I didn’t read that far after the first paragraph
All of this doesn’t explain to me why Ze trusts his and putins word against numerous researchers who published on the topic. I suspect the answer is that she simply reads social media rather than research, and in her mind it is fauci v rjk Jr and her choice is reasonable.@AAQ, the fact of the matter is that during Covid anything Fauci said was viewed by you as absolute truth and you pilloried anyone who offered a differing opinion.
@common-saychel Anti-vaxxers talk about Fauci like Meshichisters talk about Rav Shach (l’havdil). He was a leader in his field and very well respected by his peers. He was also their spokesman, so most any opinion he had, was just an amplification of the overwhelming opinion of the experts.
@123, I am not a anti vax, but in the case of Covid Fauci went totally overboard and pilloried anyone with an alternative take, regardless if it was masks, school reopening or vaccines.
commonsaychel,
“the fact of the matter is that during Covid anything Fauci said was viewed by you as absolute truth and you pilloried anyone who offered a differing opinion”
You may be confusing AAQ with some other posters. AAQ has expressed distrust in government officials, so he’d likely be willing to put daylight between himself and Fauci, despite his positions on the Covid response being fairly similar.
Thanks for defending me. I indeed do not have a position about Fauci. I mostly read research papers about covid, even some pseudo-research by sceptics. Pseudo-research because they generally lacked hard data, but operated with some secondary sources or pointed out possible deficiency in other papers. I think mention of “Fauci” is a good sign that someone went down the rabbit hole. An only serious matter that I saw that might involve Fauci is mysterious delay in reporting Pfizer Phase 2 trial results post elections. Someone made a decision that it would be good to have slightly more data than originally planned, and I never saw a determination of who that person was.
Another difference between Fauci and me is that he seemingly based some of his responses on “how people will react to that”, while I was (trying to) address issues directly. Such as – nobody needs mask (so that there will be no panic); 3 weeks is a great time between 2 vaccines (more is safer but someone decided that it will be great to have “fully vaccinated” people faster rather than vaccinating more people. UK did opposite).
I am not blaming him and similar people for taking mass reaction into account. Maybe, we all would do that in his position. But he seemingly has no expertise in this area and just used his allergology expertise to deal with public policy; and did not bother to involve real experts.
Ze> No one is going to back your “deep state” reasoning.
I don’t think I referred to any deep state members. Maybe I was not clear – I based my thinking on research papers from multiple countries that quote statistical data collections – some times by country; some times – in a specific area or even a hospital. In some, not all, cases data is even available to verify. Do you think that deep state is working on real time modification of various databases over the whole world. I think we saw that deep state can barely manage giving money to several contractors to produce vaccine on time – companies needed to talk to T and his SIL to make the deep state do the job.
And I asked you nicely what makes Kennedy more credible than others and you did not even try to answer.
Ze, thanks, I see. Bravery is a good argument. Not being corrupt also. But this guy didn’t really risk his life standing up to dictators or something and he is independently wealthy from his grandpa Illegal businesses. Your comparison with reporters may be correct but this is really low bar. Read research papers instead of watching CNN and then compare knowledge and credibility
Ze,
d’où tiens-tu tes nouvelles ?Research means papers published or at least preprinted by researchers who had access to raw data, know science and statistics, or hopefully all 3 of those. You can search for them on say scholar Google com, or medline, or archive org, researchnet and so on.
Dear Ze,
I’m still waiting for you to post your research.
Kennedy is an asset to Big Pharma. Attacking vaccines and emergency measures keeps eyes of where all the scandals really are. And you need to decide on your target.
Pfizer and Fauci have vastly different financial interests.
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