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February 6, 2014 8:13 pm at 8:13 pm #612072Torah613TorahParticipant
And how did they ever bake cakes in Europe? Did they have baking soda or powder?
February 6, 2014 8:21 pm at 8:21 pm #1004148SaysMeMemberestimating??? Just like many still do today
And yeast. Or sour dough or any other fermenting item if they didnt have i’d assume
February 6, 2014 8:32 pm at 8:32 pm #1004149🐵 ⌨ GamanitParticipantI don’t use measuring cups normally… I just make sure the batter looks right. I think they did have baking soda.
February 6, 2014 8:50 pm at 8:50 pm #1004150akupermaParticipantMeasuring devices predate most surviving written records (okay, that’s cheating since a cup may last thousands of years, and most writing materials survive centuries at best). The oldest measuring cup predates the oldest surviving recipes.
February 6, 2014 8:59 pm at 8:59 pm #1004151zahavasdadParticipantI can tell the tempature in my house without a thermostadt. With a little practice you can get knowledge of weights and measures fairly easy
February 6, 2014 9:00 pm at 9:00 pm #1004152yaakov doeParticipantThey estimated the amounts just like any serious cook does today. There where no Susie F cookbooks asking for 1/8 cup of pine nuts or 1/2 cup of pomegranate seeds or sundried tomatoes. Life anmd cooking were much simpler.
February 6, 2014 9:02 pm at 9:02 pm #1004153oyyoyyoyParticipantthey used measurements like kzayis
February 6, 2014 9:15 pm at 9:15 pm #1004154TheGoqParticipantBaking unlike cooking is a precise business you can’t guesstimate it’s not so much a recipe as it is a formula.
February 6, 2014 9:48 pm at 9:48 pm #1004155WIYMemberTorah
In the Torah they already had measuring cups. ???, ???…
February 6, 2014 9:59 pm at 9:59 pm #1004156oomisParticipantThere absolutely had to be measures of some type, or there would be no halachos pertaining to weights and measure. Whether they conformed to the measuring utensils we use today – that I cannot say. Probably not.
February 6, 2014 10:12 pm at 10:12 pm #1004157nfgo3MemberThey ate the whole cow.
February 6, 2014 10:15 pm at 10:15 pm #1004158👑RebYidd23ParticipantThey measured with their eyes, like I do, and then they made a cup to the right size and used it from then on.
February 6, 2014 10:30 pm at 10:30 pm #1004159LevAryehMemberThis question makes no sense. Measuring cups by definition are used to measure a standard, agreed-upon measurement. That measurement could not have been agreed upon unless someone had a cup which held that amount, or was marked off to show that amount. Once you have one, you can make a million.
Unless you’re asking how people measured ingredients for recipes before they had standards for measurements. I presume they had to test proportions (5 horns of black pepper to 1 1/2 conch shells of baking soda) until they found something that worked, which is the same thing they do nowadays.
February 6, 2014 11:24 pm at 11:24 pm #1004160squeakParticipantThe better question is, how did they know if people were fat before BMI was invented?
February 7, 2014 12:19 am at 12:19 am #1004161☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThey saw how much yiras shomayim they had.
February 7, 2014 6:54 am at 6:54 am #1004162Sam2ParticipantThey used measuring cups in the Beis Hamikdash. Pashut P’shat in the Mishnayos and Gemaros in Menachos is taht the sizes are D’oraisa.
February 7, 2014 7:47 am at 7:47 am #1004163interjectionParticipantI always assumed they weighed their ingredients
February 7, 2014 9:35 am at 9:35 am #1004164King19MemberAlso the gemara in ???? ?? ?? talks about the use of measuring cups on yom tov
February 7, 2014 8:45 pm at 8:45 pm #1004165MomofsixMemberI have seen a very old cookbook and it uses eggshells as a measurement
As in : “2 eggshells of oil”
Interesting
February 9, 2014 2:31 am at 2:31 am #1004166cvParticipant“And how did they ever bake cakes in Europe? Did they have baking soda or powder”
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Yes, in Europe people had and still have baking soda, powder, yeast,
To measure flour, sugar or water they use a glass (half glass). To measure oil – table spoon. To measure salt – tea spoon. To measure butter – grams (the measurement of weight).
Every recipe in a cook book has measurements of the country, where book published.
February 9, 2014 2:41 am at 2:41 am #1004167cvParticipantI have seen a very old cookbook and it uses eggshells as a measurement
As in : “2 eggshells of oil”
Interesting
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Today, some measurements mentioned in Torah, compared to the size of the egg – to give us a clue of the size
February 9, 2014 3:38 pm at 3:38 pm #1004168Torah613TorahParticipantSo I looked it up. Interesting responses on the measuring cups question.
Baking soda wasn’t used for baking until the 1800’s earliest, and wasn’t mass produced until much later.
February 9, 2014 4:10 pm at 4:10 pm #1004169LevAryehMemberTorah613Torah – My comment was said tongue-in-cheek. I didn’t think they actually used conch shells either.
February 17, 2014 4:52 pm at 4:52 pm #1004170SayIDidIt™ParticipantI saw this in Ruchoma Shain ?”?’s book, All for the Boss:
She was describing life in Mir, Europe in letters to her parents. She was explaining her language barrier problems:
…I asked her for simple instructions in cooking. “How muuch salt?” I asked. Her terse answer was, “A chuch.” For my question on the amount of sugar, “A hoifen” and for liquid, “A shpritz.”
I finally got up enough courage to ask … chuch – a pinch of salt; hoifen – a handful of sugar; shpritz – a few drops of any liquid. I am still experimenting with these measurements, but my food does not always taste the way it should…
Chapter 16 – Letter 3 (Page 231 in the newly expanded edition)
Well, I assume they had some sort of measuring utensils, but they didn’t always use them. And people today still use the above measurements.
SiDi™
February 18, 2014 5:37 am at 5:37 am #1004172👑RebYidd23ParticipantIf your food doesn’t taste right, try wearing gloves.
February 18, 2014 7:24 pm at 7:24 pm #1004173SayIDidIt™Participantrebyidd23, don’t eat your food wth your fingers, eat your fingers separately…
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February 18, 2014 9:44 pm at 9:44 pm #1004174👑RebYidd23ParticipantKnow that. Command or statement?
February 18, 2014 9:46 pm at 9:46 pm #1004175👑RebYidd23ParticipantHa
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