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  • #609366

    simcha613
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    If you found out today that you aren’t Jewish, what would you do?

    #974412

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Switch to Vos Iz Neias.

    #974413

    WIY
    Member

    Probably stop posting on this website lol.

    Honestly speaking I think I would be megayer. I lived so many years this way and I am happy with this lifestyle and used to it even though its challenging.

    #974414

    HaLeiVi
    Participant

    I would immediately stop saying Shelo Asani Goy (along with the other two, Lo Kol Shekein).

    #974415

    WIY
    Member

    DY

    Heh.

    #974416

    Shopping613 🌠
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    I would know….prob convert…random question….

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    #974417

    writersoul
    Member

    DY: Love it…

    Honestly? I don’t know.

    My dad says he’d go to KFC and McDonalds and all that, try everything once, and then head over to the beis din. But honestly, while I get fulfillment from being Jewish, if I’m not, I don’t NEED to be. There would be no need AT ALL for me to convert to be close to Hashem. I might, anyway, but it’s not the kind of thing I really know about right now.

    #974418

    Vogue
    Member

    I would immediately head to a bais din.

    #974419

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    I would immediately eat some bacon. Then I would eat some more bacon. Then ice cream.

    My second step would be to find a website called “The Catholic Seminary World” and troll their coffee room. Or maybe “The Madrassa World”.

    My third step would be to take my kids out of yeshiva, and enroll them in public school, and use the money I saved to buy more bacon.

    My fourth step would be to marry someone 25 years younger than me, and not even care about the shidduch crisis.

    My fifth step would be to go OTD and not care about OTD crisis.

    My sixth step would be to become a member at HIR. Then I woudld have them convert me conservative so that I could still eat pastrami, chopped liver, and lox and bagels, and so that I could still do all the fun parts. And go to bar-mitzva’s. But I wouldn’t convert my wife, so that we could also have a christmas tree and get presents.

    I’m too full to think of more stuff right now.

    #974420

    HaLeiVi
    Participant

    Popa, is bacon that good? I didn’t find Shibuta so amazing.

    #974421

    I’d convert al pi halacha… oh, wait…

    I would throw the biggest diva fit this side of the Dead Sea with the beis din that did my geirus.

    #974422

    Menachem Melamed
    Participant

    If you would ask dayanim of batei din you would discover that this is not such a rare occurence. In almost all of the cases these wonderful people are megayer as soon as they possibly can. If you guys would put your joking aside, I am pretty sure that you would do the same.

    #974423

    monseeyid
    Participant

    I would cry and rush to see my Rebbe to make it right. Doing anything else would expose to myself that I was a fraud.

    I know a posek who gave several warning to a “group” of Yidden… You don’t fix this gross injustice then I will, he told them. They ignored – intentionally refused, they sent word that they would do nothing. The posek acted just as he had warned them he would.

    He was summoned to “their” beis din after he did what he told them he would do. This posek was not under the auspices of their beis din, so he didn’t have to appear, but he did. The Din asked why he chose to come. He said, all my life I learned about, supported and promoted our system so if I didn’t come when summoned I wouldn’t be me.

    They found him guilty, gave him his penalty, all of which he did not have to accept. However he did so with pride… If he had done anything else, then the greater harm would have been done to him by his own hand, by his obvious acute lack of Yiras Shemayim.

    For the most part we are all observant people who post here…if I found out today that I was not Jewish, like the posek above, I would make it right, no matter the difficulties, otherwise I wouldn’t be true to who I am as a human being.

    And to who I am… I can only thank HaKodesh Barachu for placing me with all the wonderful Yidden who supported me in becoming the an I am… What a shame if I walked away because of some mistake made by others… And what a great mistake they made… From what we all know, who would want to live like a goy?

    #974424

    monseeyid
    Participant

    Corrected…. “becoming the man I am..”

    #974425

    So no one would start studying the noachide laws?

    #974426

    Simcha613: Did u ever go to Mirrer Yeshiva?

    #974427

    The very first thing I’d do is put on my left shoe before my right.

    #974428

    ha ha!

    #974429

    I’d give a shir to my fellow goyim living in my jewish neighborhood in hilchos amira l’akum so they’d know how to take a “hint” & do what has to be done k’halocho especially when the yid in need has no clue as to what they are & aren’t allowed to ask or be n’heneh from.

    #974430

    I’d do t’shuva for all the shabbosos that I wasn’t allowed to keep (goy sheshovas chayiv misoh)

    #974431

    Chortkov
    Participant

    Letz – I was MAMASH about to write that – you took the words straight off my screen!!!

    #974432

    writersoul
    Member

    Charles Snort: That’s kind of what I meant. I might very easily decide to convert, but the fact is, NOBODY, when confronted with this situation, NEEDS to.

    #974433

    Torah613Torah
    Participant

    I’m not Jewish. I’m a woman.

    #974434

    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    If it were discovered that I were not Jewish, every Rav in the world would probably say “good riddance.”

    Unfortunately for them, I am Jewish.

    The Wolf

    #974435

    batseven
    Participant

    I would be devastated.

    I love being jewish:)

    #974436

    WIY
    Member

    WolfishMusings

    Why do you assume all Ravs in the world speak English?

    #974437

    charliehall
    Participant

    “If you found out today that you aren’t Jewish, what would you do?”

    I’d convert to Judaism.

    #974438

    hudi
    Participant

    PBA – You had me laughing there! LOL

    I would convert. It would be wonderful! Fresh clean slate…

    #974439

    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    Why do you assume all Ravs in the world speak English?

    Let me guess… you also wonder why all the actors in Les Miserables are speaking English when they very clearly should be speaking French?

    The Wolf

    #974440

    Giyoress al pi halacha- Thanks for the great laugh!

    Letz- thanks for staying true to your sn!

    I’ll be honest, although I love being Jewish, and I love all the greatness it has to offer, I’m not sure if I’d be so quick to convert, I’m a BT so I remember some of the things I used to do back in my teens and early twenties, and it was pretty fun. I still have tayvaos to do some of those things, and only don’t because I’m a yeshivah bachur, and it would be a great chillul HaShem if I did. So…yeah although I’d love to say I’d convert immediately, I can’t say that with full confidence unfortunately.

    #974441

    Oh Shreck!
    Participant

    Me? I’d run and do the only mitzvah a Goy alone can do – bring and be makrev a real Korban to HaShem!

    Then I’d head for beis din.

    #974442

    WIY
    Member

    Oh shreck

    A non Jew can bring a Korban bizman hazeh? I thought if they want to bring a korban they have to bring it to the Beis Hamikdash.

    #974443

    on the ball
    Participant

    I’d probably be Megayer but I would have a dilemma as to which type of Jew to be.

    Sefardi? Ashkenazi? Teimani? Litvish? Yekkish? Chasidish? Hungarian?

    #974444

    DaMoshe
    Participant

    Oh Shreck!: The only mitzvah? Aren’t there 7 mitzvos a non-Jew can do?

    If I found I wasn’t Jewish, I’d probably decide to live according to the 7 mitzvos b’nei Noach. A non-Jew who follows them and lives a good life can also get a share in the next world! And besides, I’ve heard that bacon is the most delicious food in the world (although I’ve argued that cholent is probably better). I’d love to be able to taste it!

    #974445

    Oh Shreck!
    Participant

    WIY: I’m not a posek, (surely not if I found out I’m a non-Jew!), so it appears. No, a non Jew can bring a Korban anywhere, it should preferably be with all brand-new utensils. There’s a gemarah somewhere about it, if I’m not mistaken.

    DaMoshe: I’m writing about something a non-Jew can do – but not a Jew. Jews are also included in those seven.

    One more thing, DaMoshe, you write that a non Jew who follows the seven laws and leads a good life can also get a share in the next world. Yes that is true. BUT IT DOES NOT COMPARE TO ONE HOUR OF LIVING A JEWISH LIFE, here on this world. ??? ??? ??? ?????? ?????? ????? ????? ???, ??? ??? ????? ???. How much more so in the afterlife. No, not comparable. – ??????? ?? ????? ??? ???? ?????!!

    That is actually a message we should strive to internalize. How precious and dear it is TO US, to HaShem, every minute we as Jews spend on doing Mitzvohs, Torah, teshuva, maasim tovim. Actually the life lived as a Jew in itself is so important. So important, it allows for desecrating Shabbos, just to prolong a Jewish life (even if unable to perform any mitzvhos).

    #974446

    id shave with a razor for the beis din meeting

    #974447

    musser zoger
    Participant

    I would

    1. Talk during Cazaras hashatz and krias hatorah.

    2. come late for davening

    3. stop daf yomi immediately

    4. Carry in the eruv

    5. start using chalav stam

    6. eat gebrochts on pesach

    #974448

    WIY
    Member

    Musser zoger

    Some of those things are optional. Not everyone learns daf yomi some prefer other limudim. There are many fine Jews who eat chalav stam and carry in the Eruv (I’m referring to legit eruvs of course). There are also many fine Jews that eat gebrochts and if necessary you may be able to change your minhag so ask a Rav.

    #974449

    musser zoger
    Participant

    WIY- Tongue in cheek

    #974450

    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    1. Talk during Cazaras hashatz and krias hatorah.

    Why would you do something that is basically disrespectful to HKBH, Jewish or not?

    The Wolf

    #974451

    squeak
    Participant

    I would go to the police and tell hem everything I know.

    Then I would convert.

    #974453

    HaLeiVi
    Participant

    I agree with The Wolf, about talking during Chazaras Hashatz. Also, why would you stop the Daf? You should try to know as much Torah as possible when you become a Yid.

    #974454

    @squeek – The Rabbonim beat you to it.

    #974455

    jewish source
    Participant

    Then you want to know why your kids look like they do. Some of you are so not interested in being frum its unbelievable. Reb Moshe used to say the people that said OY SSHVER TSU ZEIN A YID! their kids went off the derech. A frum yid that has geshmack in learning doing mitzvos loves being yidish and everything it comes with will see yedishe nachas . The image you kids and spouse needs to see is that there is no other way that I would want to be , not an image that looks like you are miserable.

    #974456

    golfer
    Participant

    batseven, you win the Prize!

    Thanks!

    For being honest.

    For being sincere.

    For not being shy to show off the good person you are.

    For not trying to be funny & sounding pathetic.

    Oh and just to be polite & answer the OP, I’d follow batseven.

    #974457

    WIY
    Member

    squeak

    Why would you wait until then to tell the cops? If they are harming others physically or financially you have an obligation to speak up.

    #974458

    musser zoger
    Participant

    Also, why would you stop the Daf? You should try to know as much Torah as possible when you become a Yid.

    First of all that was all said tongue in cheek.

    Second, I would not be megayer. I could get to Olam Haba relatively easy being a righteous goy. Why become a Jew, with all the challenges and trials. There is absolutely no mitzva or chiyuv for a goy to become a yid.

    #974459

    Oh Shreck!
    Participant

    Musser Zoger:

    I’m not the one to Zug Mussar, a shame you didn’t read my earlier post.

    #974460

    musser zoger
    Participant

    Schreck, I did see it and respectfully disagree. Yes the upside is great by being a Jew, but the potential downside is so much greater. Who can say they are living up to taryag mitzvos. The only reason I do mitzvos is that I am metzuveh. If I wasn’t a yid I certainly would not volunteer for it. It is too easy to be over kares. Nope not volunteering for that. Do you even realize how serious every aveirah is? Tread carefully.

    #974462

    WIY
    Member

    musser zoger

    The biggest pircha for what you are saying is that lemayseh we see that there are many geirim bizman hazeh and they all know what they are getting into and they still choose Yiddishkiet. Obviously its worth taking the risk because at the end of the day if you want to do whats right and try your hardest you are guaranteed that Hashem will help you. Habaah Litaher misaayin oso and bederch sheadam rotzeh leileich molichin oso. Additionally theres the concept of Teshuvah and no matter how low one has fallen he can do Teshuvah. So I would say its better to be a Yid because we have a neshama and we are a cheilek eloka and what is in store for us is much greater than any of them can ever get. Yes for being a righteous gentile there will be some reward but its infinitely less than what we will get and what we are a part of.

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