October 11, 2013 2:32 pm at 2:32 pm #610859
It seems like Rabbonim use them.
Can anyone advise what it is.
Thanks.October 11, 2013 2:36 pm at 2:36 pm #1061980rebdonielMember
A handheld device commonly used to make cattle or other livestock move through a relatively high-voltage, low-current electric shock.October 11, 2013 2:42 pm at 2:42 pm #1061981pixelateMember
A cattle prod, also called a stock prod, is a handheld device commonly used to make cattle or other livestock move by striking or poking them, or in the case of a Hot-Shot-type prod, through a relatively high-voltage, low-current electric shock.October 11, 2013 2:44 pm at 2:44 pm #1061982dafyomi2711Member
it is just a stick that helps the cattleman lead his cattle to where he wants them to go.October 11, 2013 2:55 pm at 2:55 pm #1061983apushatayidParticipant
Something to keep leitzonim like you in line.October 11, 2013 3:55 pm at 3:55 pm #1061984Oh Shreck!Participant
Something used to prod a “beast” to do what he’s supposed to.October 11, 2013 5:19 pm at 5:19 pm #1061985fkellyMember
That’s horrible! I didn’t realize it gives shocks!October 11, 2013 6:36 pm at 6:36 pm #1061986
This news story is one of many recent events that can qualify as an
“The emporer has no clothes” moment.
The children of klal yisrael are not stupid by any stretch of the imagination and there are only so many of these stories that can happen before a generation is lost.
But keep banning things and complaining about the shidduch crisis, seems to be working.October 11, 2013 7:12 pm at 7:12 pm #1061987
Thanks for your responses.
Where do Rabbonim go for training in using cattle prods? I ask this, because I heard that Rabbonim have been using them lately.
Thank you.October 13, 2013 1:04 am at 1:04 am #1061991Charles ShortMember
shocking!October 13, 2013 5:11 am at 5:11 am #1061992
What part is shocking?October 13, 2013 5:47 am at 5:47 am #1061994Oh Shreck!Participant
What part? The tip, of course!October 14, 2013 9:21 am at 9:21 am #1061995YW Moderator-42Moderator
A waiter was once given a $1000 tip, it was shocking.October 14, 2013 2:48 pm at 2:48 pm #1061996
The whole story is shocking. If it weren’t respected Rabbonim involved it would be a lot less shocking. I never agree with anything crisis says but there’s no doubt that what these bearded mafiosos did will have a very negative effect on the bachurim in their Yeshivah as well as weakening respect for Rabbonim in general for all who hear the story.October 14, 2013 2:54 pm at 2:54 pm #1061997
I don’t think that the emperor has no clothes I just think that there are many people given the title Rabbi solely based on their learning skills without being proper mentchen. If a person doesn’t work on his middos he can know shas cold and still be an evil person. Kol hagadol mechaveiro yitzro gadol heimenu. The greater you are the greater the evil inclination which has means that as one grows in Torah ones middos and yiras shomayim must grow in an equal and actually greater proportion. When it doesn’t you get the kind of Rabbonim who make the headlines of the non Jewish papers.October 14, 2013 3:38 pm at 3:38 pm #1061998
Thats too convenient a cop out. To just say that the bad apples weren’t really authentic apples to begin with.
Look up “No True Scotsmen”
The leader of the group had been a long time advocate for Agunahs and I guess now we know why.October 14, 2013 7:33 pm at 7:33 pm #1061999
You misunderstood me. Many people assume that a Rabbi will automatically be who knows what and above and beyond reproach and have sterling middos and the right hashkafah and yards yards yadda. But it has never been that way. Going back to the beginning of our history we have had bad Rabbis. There were neviei shaker, false prophets and all kinds of fake Rabbonim and Rebbes and mekubalim throughout the years. Like I said before, Rabbi often means simply that he can learn, many called Rabbi don’t even have semicha. Today everyone w a beard and went to kollel is Rabbi. Bottom line, even if a person learned Torah, if he never learned mussar and never worked on himself he can be evil as can be. In fact he will twist and pervert the Torah to give himself a pass on all the evil things that he perpetrates. So again stop assuming that because someone has a title he actually lives up to it. There are corrupt cops, corrupt judges, corrupt senators and congressmen, corrupt Dr’s and corrupt Rabbis. Its a fact that has always existed. In the times of Moshe Rabbeinu we had Korach who was almost as great as Moshe yet we see where he ended up. In the time of David Hamelech we hated doieg who was a member of the Sanhedrin who became a non believer and blasphemed and did other wicked acts. Fake Rabbis who only care about themselves are nothing new to us.October 14, 2013 8:04 pm at 8:04 pm #1062000
That is your take on it.
I happen to think that there is something rotten at the core of the institution.
I also happen to think that people are more upset at the negative press the “heimishe oilam” is getting, rather than a group of “rabanim” acting like charchters from Goodfellas.
And I am thankful to the J-Blogosphere for continuing to expose these people. Because maybe people will catch on that there is no such thing as “sweeping it under the rug” anymore and start behaving accordingly.March 1, 2015 4:29 pm at 4:29 pm #1062002JosephParticipant
Can anyone advise what it is.
Lior: It is a tool used to create a get me’usa.
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