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every jew that voted for biden should take a good look at the things they are teaching childeren and doing to children and if you do not regret voting for him then you got some issues man
what does the question ‘what is a woman’ have to do with regretting voting for biden?
A person whose birchos hashachar include “shelo asani ish”.
1. What is taught in public schools is a function of the states. Most frum Jews send their children to privately funded schools. Biden has nothing to do with them.
2. Biden’s administration is supporting allowing males to play on women’s teams by claiming they are female wannabees. This has no impact on our community since college athletics are routinely conducted in a manner that precludes those observing Shabbos (which is why frum Jews are for all purposes excluded from NCAA athletic scholarships, which by far are the largest non-need based college scholarships).
3. Brandon’s inept foreign and economic policies are reason enough to oppose him. Confusion about grammar is not a serious issue, at least from our perspective.
Can you elaborate on the connection between Biden and things “they” are teaching and doing to Young children?
Akerpuma. It has nothing to do with if the specific cases apply to us or not. The point is that they r pushing the liberal agenda and the liberal agenda is rishus and toavah
Who says that you have to follow the liberal agenda? They provide help to the poor as a springboard to find a job and not like their opponents advocating ‘sink or swim’.
Even if the specific laws being passed don’t have any practical ramifications for frum yidden, they directly affect the culture of the country we live in. It’s extremely difficult- if not impossible- to live in a country and not be influenced, at least to some degree, by the surrounding culture.
There are also so many non-Frum yidden living in the USA who will be directly affected by these laws. We should care about them, too.Be a Yid on your own. Don’t expect the goyim to do it for you. We would have ceased to exist long ago, if we had subscribed to Judeo-Christian values as the basis of we are.
Dear Young, and?
If we really value The Torah Way, how do you feel threatened by a political figure cheering on some unintelligible social celebration? Even if he is the President.
Answer: current Daf Yomi Seder.
More(!) seriously, I have to answer humbly “I do not know” to the OP’s question – despite years of diligent study with a personal tutor. Even after the tutor and I introduced. B’H, several more exemplars into the world and I was zoche to observe them closely, first in vivo and then in vitro – I still cannot comprehend them. But the Seder is not over, so I am still holding hope.
“We would have ceased to exist long ago, if we had subscribed to Judeo-Christian values as the basis of we are…
nOmesorah makes a really important point. Those like Agudah who are issuing press releases applauding the Roe decision and kvelling about the Republicans pledges to restore America to its founding “Judeo-Christian” values really have zero interest in the Judeo part. While you may see an occasional frum yid with yeshivsh lvush, black hat and beardl lined up in the photo ops, their concept of yiddeshkeit is more aligned with Jews for Jesus and evangelical messianic dogma. They would throw us under the bus quicker than you can say MAGA (not that the left-wing Dems are any better).
Nobody commenting here seems to be able to define “woman”.
Gadolhadorah,
I love it when someone lumps a whole group of people together and ascribes one thing to the whole group negatively
Just as an example Rabbi Avi Shafran was anti trump the whole time trump was president, so I guess now that he left he has become a MAGAer
>>>Who says that you have to follow the liberal agenda? They provide help to the poor as a springboard to find a job and not like their opponents advocating ‘sink or swim’.
Helping the poor through the confiscation of other people’s money isn’t chesed. It is theft.
What does the Gemorah say about “Chesed Lumim Chatos?”
It helps the economy and therefore people are mochel the theft.
A woman is one who sits in the ezras nashim in shul and loves to shop.
That is not confiscation but paying extra taxes.
CA: Not “All” but a significant number of those who profess their love and support for their “Jewish brothers and sisters” view it all through the prism of a fundamentalist Christian world view. While we make convenient political allies on some public policy issues, its important to keep that perspective in the background
“It helps the economy and therefore people are mochel the theft.“
Speak for yourself
I don’t want my tax dollars “helping the economy” by paying for unnecessary things or even funding abortions
Smerel, i made a similar mistake in taking the Tanya’s useage of that pasuk and thinking it’s in gemara – the gemaras maskanah is that it means cleansing, but i did think of a way to make the tanyas pshat fit in with a maharsha there, but it’s not the pashut pshat when you see the gemara.
He’s getting it from a zohar or arizal, kol tivu de’avdin etc…
either of which can take the pasuk to mean that al derech sod, but in pshat, that’s not how chazal understand it.
But, what is a troll?
“CA: Not “All” but a significant number of those who profess their love and support for their “Jewish brothers and sisters” view it all through the prism of a fundamentalist Christian world view. While we make convenient political allies on some public policy issues, its important to keep that perspective in the background“
I’m talking about the Agudah and you’re switching to evangelicals, they are both “religious” but that’s it
“I’m talking about the Agudah and you’re switching to evangelicals, they are both “religious” but that’s it..
Sorry I wasn’t clear. I’m not equating Agudah or any yiddeshe mosdos to the Evangelical Christian groups with whom we occasionally find common positions. I am very skeptical of the their motives and longer-term agenda for Yidden and EY. Personally, I’m not all that interested in being a participant in their armageddon plans for z’man moishiach. Some of the same evangelical wingnuts that Trump invited for the opening of the U.S. Embassy in yerushalayim are also part of a traveling circus with former General Michael Flynn, the Pillow guy and other meshugaim advocating for making the bible (aka NT) and “God’s Natural Law” the ultimate governing framework for American jurisprudence.
To those who do not have a simple answer for “What is a woman?” we must ask “Is there such a thing as a woman?”
Gadolhadorah,
Are you ok? You’re sidestepping what my original comment was about
Originally you said agudah is a bunch of magaers, I brought a proof they weren’t then you sidestep to evangelicals
CA: I never equated Agudah to MAGA. I said that segments of the so-called New Right Christian evangelicals would throw yidden under the proverbial bus “faster than you can say MAGA”.
I have great respect for Agudah’s work, both in DC and state capitals. I have no real insight but suspect that R ‘Chaim Dovid Zwiebel is not a big MAGA fan but has to deal with political world as it is. I’m concerned for reasons noted earlier that there are risks for Agudah and any of the politically active yiddeshe mosdos to get too far out over their skis on some of these alliances.
Enough said.Now I understand your original post. Thanks for the clarification
Reb Clarence Thomas has a new book out. In excerpts he quotes his grandfather who looked at the newly constructed “projects” and remarked – they are building houses, not communities. It is not enough to wish away helping poor – you need to actually know how to achieve it. See Rambam’s priority list.
Dear Young,
1. Hishtadlus. Not needed here. Let the general public try all the social experiments they want. It has no meaning to me. Why would any yid with a strong foundation even follow this nonsense?
2. Policies. If Washington had not been non-functional for the majority of my life, this may be worth discussing. But the fact is that our elected representatives to the collective bodies of government can’t govern. Nor can they be collective. They can’t even represent anymore. Now they are moving to the point where they can’t even be fairly elected. In this climate, policies are just fuel for bigoted cultural discord. The sensible person would take on whatever position is less inflammatory. Even if that means ‘supporting’ something that we personally find abominable.
I think the answer to this question is very simple yet complex. A woman is someone who is inherinty possesin g female charitiristics like washing dishes and cooking food . the real question is what is a man? 5 collums hagbah?
(no discrimination intended)
If I cook for myself and wash my dishes, am I a female as my wife passed away 12 years ago?
Reb E, there are (were?) some expectations in the society:
Yevamos ~110 talks abut a (rich) blind person who volunteered 400 zuz for a bride, saying that having a wife is a better idea that just hiring a maid .. (thus, he pays twice for getting both in the same person)
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