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  • #1389334
    Lightbrite
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    How do you define “skim milk”?

    Thank you 🙂

    #1389368
    Joseph
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    1% milk. Also known as blue milk, based on the color of the containers.

    #1389374
    Lightbrite
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    If 1% milk doesn’t have added Vitamin A, is it still skim milk?

    #1389390

    Milk color-coding is not universally uniform.

    #1389402
    Joseph
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    It’s universal among the Cholov Yisroel brands.

    #1389428
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Skim milk is fat free. The cholov Yisroel companies package it in plastic containers with green labels.

    #1389435
    yehudayona
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    Joseph, you’re slipping. First you incorrectly define skim milk, then you overgeneralize. Perhaps the color coding in universal among New York area cholov yisrael brands, but believe it or not, there are cholov yisrael brands of milk in other parts of the world. They do not necessarily use the color coding scheme that the NY brands use.

    #1389440
    Joseph
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    YY, admittedly I do make mistakes on infrequent occasions.

    Anyways, other than Baltimore (which I think uses the same color codes for milk), where are there other U.S. brands of Cholov Yisroel milk?

    #1389448
    Lightbrite
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    DY, thank you for sharing. The milk in the photo that you shared has added Vitamin A.

    Here’s a glimpse of what provoked me to ask this thread’s question:

    “In the state of Florida, although local laws specify that the legal definition of skim milk is milk which does not contain cream, the state ruled in a lawsuit filed by the Ocheesee Creamery that skim milk which does not contain the vitamins found in whole milk falls under the definition of an “imitation milk product”, and cannot be marketed as skim milk because it is ‘nutritionally inferior'” (Wiki).

    #1389465
    jakob
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    joseph

    1 percent milk is the blue milk your talking about & its called lowfat milk not skim milk that is the green milk (as posted in the picture above

    #1389501
    Meno
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    Why is it called 1% milk if it’s actually 99% milk?

    #1389509
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Maybe they’re just being modest.

    #1389529
    TheGoq
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    It is called skim or skimmed milk because the cream (the part that contains the fat) is removed or skimmed from the milk leaving the nonfat skim milk.

    #1389535
    yehudayona
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    Joseph, you should travel more. One would think that any large frum community more than a few hours by truck from NY or Baltimore would have local brands of CY. I know you can get local CY milk in Detroit. I haven’t been to Cleveland in many years, but when I was there, they had local CY. Much to my surprise, the website for an LA kosher store shows they sell Fresh & Healthy and Devash!

    And of course, most (all?) milk sold in Israel is CY.

    #1389537
    Joseph
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    Much to my surprise, the website for an LA kosher store shows they sell Fresh & Healthy and Devash!

    That’s exactly it, YY. Most of America where they have Cholov Yisroel are getting it transported to them from New York, i.e. NY brands. Very few places outside of NY have their own brands of CY. Baltimore being an exception.

    #1389734
    👑RebYidd23
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    It would be easier to transport if it were shelf stable.

    #1389742
    Joseph
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    Shelf stable requires Ultra-Pasteurization.

    #1389763
    👑RebYidd23
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    Which is doable.

    #1389806
    Avram in MD
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    Joseph,

    Anyways, other than Baltimore (which I think uses the same color codes for milk), where are there other U.S. brands of Cholov Yisroel milk?

    I’ve seen a brand called Tevye Farms in Florida.

    #1389821
    DovidBT
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    “Shelf stable requires Ultra-Pasteurization.”

    Is there a reason that process can’t be CY?

    And what about conversion to dry powder? Instead of liquid milk, I started buying the dry powder, which probably has a shelf life of years. But it doesn’t seem to be available as CY.

    #1389835
    yitzyk
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    Here are some Interesting facts that I learned when I contacted the Dairy Counsel customer service a few years ago:

    The fat percentage from Holstein cows in NY is inconsistent, and It is also too low on fat content for ‘regular’ milk. (It averages about 2.5%.) The milk cannot be used/sold as-is. While typical household consumers might not mind, manufacturers need to be consistent.

    Therefore ALL of the fat is removed from the milk, and then added back in with precise amounts to form the different types of milk. Thus, the milks are all identical in vitamins etc… The ONLY difference is the fat content.
    Regular milk has 4% fat
    Low-fat (aka ’99’) milk has 1% fat
    Skim milk has no fat.

    So if you had just regular and Skim milk in your fridge, but wanted Low-fat, you could mix 3 parts skim and one part regular and get what you need!

    #1389841
    iacisrmma
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    Avram in MD: You are correct. Rabbi Dubov of Maitland, FL told me that they approached some farms as the milk they were receiving from the Northeast had a short shelf life.

    #1389842
    Joseph
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    In Monsey you can buy raw, non-pasteurized, Cholov Yisroel milk.

    #1389883
    👑RebYidd23
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    But why would you want to buy raw milk? It’s only good freshly milked.

    #1390099
    Avram in MD
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    Lightbrite,

    How do you define “skim milk”?

    Opaque water. If it ain’t whole milk, it ain’t milk.

    #RealMilkHasARedLid

    #1390097
    yehudayona
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    There was CY shelf-stable milk in the U.S. for a brief time maybe 15 or 20 years ago. I guess there wasn’t enough of a market for it to be profitable.

    Yitzyk, a look at the ingredients in skim milk show that they’re identical in vitamins only because vitamin A is added (in addition to the vitamin D that’s added to whole milk). Removing the fat removes the vitamin A, which is why they have to add it back in.

    #1390104
    Avram in MD
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    Joseph,

    In Monsey you can buy raw, non-pasteurized, Cholov Yisroel milk.

    Mmmmm, I love E-Coli in my morning coffee.

    #1390546
    👑RebYidd23
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    Fresh raw milk is reasonably safe for most adults.

    #1390565
    Avram in MD
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    Define reasonable. And safe.

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