what is the origin of chanukah gifts?

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    AviraDeArah
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    O.c. 1, 104
    O.c. 2, 97
    O.c. 4, 36

    In the last one he says to have a kidush in shul is preferable to having a machlokes in the issue

    #2026798
    AviraDeArah
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    I made an error – the last teshuva says a kiddush is fine, and not worse than making a kidush for any other simcha, even with saying some words for the bas mitzvah, is all fine. He says that if one can abolish the bas mitzvah celebration itself (not kiddush) in shul without making a machlokes or “zilusa” then it is a good thing to do, but not if it will cause a machlokes or “zilusa”

    #2026804
    Reb Eliezer
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    The Serudei Aish says to make a Bas Mitzva as a necessity so the girls should not feel left out. Rav Moshe’s view is that it is like any other birthday party and thereby forbidden to make it in a shul.

    #2026807
    ubiquitin
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    “Ubiq… You don’t see an issue combining the name of the avodah zara holiday of kratzmich with chanuka?

    I do.
    I was just parroting UJM, but You’re right I shouldn’t take cues from him

    #2026817
    Reb Eliezer
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    For the above reason I made a bas mitzva for my daughter in an outside hall but just for women as it is improper to publicize a girl becoming of age and no change in public behavior of her reflects that. However, a boy puts tefillin on in public.

    #2034861
    TS Baum
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    Gifts on Chanukah are because on most years, xmas falls out at around the same time. So the Yidden decided to copy them.

    #2245220
    ujm
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    ubiq, were you successful yet this year in wrapping up your Chri—, er, Chanukah presents shopping?

    #2245274
    ubiquitin
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    UJM

    Its been a while

    Yes BH success
    did you ever get the present I sent you years back? It was a Yoreh deah chelek beis .
    Hope your using it

    #2247511
    Gorsh
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    Fingers crossed I can avoid the holiday shopping frenzy this year.

    #2249199
    GotAGoodPoint
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    The Chashmonoim were certainly not the first to mint coins. Although there are many proofs of earlier coins, the earliest example i can think of is Avrohom Ovinu who minted coins. See Bovo Kama 97b for details of what they looked like. An elderly couple on one side, and a young couple on the other side.

    There is actually a halachic necessity for minted coins. Maaser Sheni can Revoi can only be redeemed onto minted coins. Nothing else. If the entire world turns to digital banking exclusively, we will be in big trouble. (Any country that stops will be in trouble, because you can only use local currency. but the issue is mainly in Eretz Yisroel where there is fruit with keduasha.)

    #2249206
    GotAGoodPoint
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    Purim is not the only time we give gifts. Afikoman presents, anyone?

    And although Mishloach monos is customarily food-items only, that is because it is a machlokes if one can be yoitze with other items. There are poskim who hold that is need not be food related. See Pri Megadim 692;1, who is mistapek. Derech Hachaim (Hil. Purim) allows, and Turei Even (avnei Shoham 7b) mashma also that he OKs it.

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