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    mw13
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    #1164181

    👑RebYidd23
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    He’s acting like a toddler, as usual.

    #1164182

    MDG
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    DumbOld Grump believes that the more he repeats a lie, the more people will believe it. And guess what? He’s right.

    #1164183

    2scents
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    Actually, I think he made a great point and he is great at laying traps like these for the media.

    Trump says something in a tone that might sound like he is suggesting more then he is actually saying, some jump on this and call him out on it, he then uses this opportunity to undermine those that are calling him out.

    He nicely explained that it’s not him that suggested that Cruz’s dad assassinated JFK, only that there is a photo of him having breakfast with JFks assassin.

    He then asks, why can’t we talk about this? is the photo not of Cruz’s dad?

    #1164184

    akuperma
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    Candidate Trump is still “playing” the character he developed for his TV show. He does the “lines” that seem best for his ratings. Whether he can easily change his script is another matter.

    #1164185

    2scents
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    Same with Hillary, you truly believes she stands for the things she says??

    Standard politics.

    #1164186

    Git Meshige
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    Trump stands for common sense. An old famous saying, pictures speak a thousand words, he is just reinforcing that phrase. A mere 8 years ago we all condemned Obama for hanging out with Rev Wright and rightly so. So if Cruz father was having breakfast with an assassin, it should certainly raise eyebrows. I am not sure why he is being condemned for something that is as light as day

    #1164187

    yehudayona
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    There’s no serious evidence that Rafael Cruz ever met Oswald. A grainy photo of someone that the Warren Commission couldn’t identify is evidence only for publications like the National Enquirer and people like Donald Trump.

    #1164188

    👑RebYidd23
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    Does common sense treat women as disposable things? Does common sense mock the disabled? Does common sense scam people out of their savings? Does common sense make misogynistic comments about reporters? Does common sense belittle war heroes who were captured?

    #1164189

    2scents
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    No one publicly disputed the photo, only attacked trump about it, as I noted they ran right into his trap.

    Not sure why you are changing the discussion about comments he made. But btw I think he has a point, a hero is not someone that was captured.. It’s someone that has done something heroic.

    #1164190

    oomis
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    Does common sense allow a top security person in the Obama Administration to perpetuate the most absurd and dangerous of canards for two weeks, and not send help to AMERICANS in service of their country, and her reward is to possibly end up as our commander in grief? I am frankly not crazy about either choice, but I sincerely believe that at least Mr. Trump will surround himself with good people. I have no such illusions about someone who has proven time and time again to be dishonest, disreputable, and despicable. One look at her smugly bored face during the inquiry was enough to turn me off.

    #1164191

    Dave Hirsch
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    Trump’s pea-sized brain has no ability to think. The sad part is that most Americans don’t think either (with the excuse that it’s common sense…).

    G-d have mercy.

    #1164192

    ptcha
    Member

    Simply put, he’s not a mentsch.

    Simply put, I am not a liberal.

    Herein lies the problem.

    Black Hats Matter.

    #1164193

    👑RebYidd23
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    Do Trump’s comments have no connection to his thoughts?

    #1164194

    2scents
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    It seems like you are clinging to some comments of his comments yet not to his policies. True, he might not be politically correct and might not be polite at times.

    But at least he has some things right, we sold out our country to China, not too long ago there were huge plants manufacturing goods here in the USA, actually here in the tri-state, we essentially made it easy and cheaper to import and harder if not impossible to manufacture.

    we became a country of services instead of manufacturing. this makes no sense at all and catastrophic to many people.

    I do understand that it’s not just the democrats that are to blame for this, Bush had a big hand in this, however, this is a huge issue and he is willing to deal with it.

    So what if Hillary is more politically correct and watches what she says.

    #1164195

    2scents
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    In fact, Hillary has been corrupt there is no one that is denying it. she lied about the emails as has been pointed out by the FBI that stated that there were emails marked classified at the time.

    The current email scandal that shows how the DNC was working against Bernie, it’s without any doubt that they were not doing this on their own, no one is denying any of this.

    To a lot of people, when putting Hillary side by side with Trump she is viewed as the dishonest and crooked person and trump the non-politically correct and straightforward get-it-done kind of person.

    #1164196

    👑RebYidd23
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    “Not politically correct” is just the politically correct way of saying “rude, immature and narcissistic”.

    #1164197

    writersoul
    Member

    “No one publicly disputed the photo, only attacked trump about it, as I noted they ran right into his trap.”

    Seriously? Everyone was laughing when they heard the picture was from the National Enquirer.

    #1164198

    2scents
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    Disagree, political correct means hurting someone while wearing white gloves.

    #1164199

    huju
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    Trump is thinking?

    #1164200

    charliehall
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    “as has been pointed out by the FBI that stated that there were emails marked classified at the time”

    Actually only three were — and none of the three were marked properly. They only had a (c) before the classified line; red stamps “CONFIDENTIAL” at the top and bottom were also required. And at least two of the three had already been declassified at the time she sent them; the State Department indicated that it is possible that the third one was as well but they have not been able to confirm it.

    Meanwhile, while nobody knew about Clinton’s server, the official secure servers at the State Department lost two hundred fifty two thousand, two hundred eighty two messages to Wikileaks. Nothing from Clinton’s server appeared on Wikileaks. And given that the link between Wikileaks and Russians has now been proven, it is likely that her emails would have ended up there had it been successfully hacked.

    #1164201

    2scents
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    Charlie,

    the outcome does not make it right, the fact that there were no leaks (that we are currently aware of) does not mean that this is a nonissue.

    even the in his statement, the FBI director had a lot of negative things to say about what Hillary did, so much that it is left to wonder why she is not prosecuted.

    No one has ever used the small C as an excuse of not realizing that this is not confidential, what Hillary repeatedly said was that what she did was legal and there were no emails that were marked confidential at the time.

    despite it only being a small number of emails, each of these emails have email chains and we now know that what she did was careless and against the rules.

    #1164202

    Health
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    2scents -“so much that it is left to wonder why she is not prosecuted.”

    It’s good that she wasn’t prosecuted, because if ch’vs, she becomes president, we can now impeach her, like her hubby!

    #1164203

    mw13
    Participant

    Best answer award goes to huju:

    Trump is thinking?

    Touche.

    #1164204

    2scents
    Participant

    Its silly to think that she will ever be impeached for this, yet it just shows all that she is above the law and no one will do anything to her even if they themselves explain that what she did was wrong.

    #1164205

    dovrosenbaum
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    I like Trump. He’s a master at trolling. The whole kerfuffle with Russia and Killary’s emails, the whole ruckus with Melania’s speech, are all carefully calculated schemes intended to keep the media’s spotlight on him. And it’s succeeding, and it will succeed.

    I am particularly smitten by the fact that he has tapped into the fact that typical, middle class Americans have had enough with our culture of political correctness, sensitivity, trigger warnings, safe spaces, and all that nonsense. I believe his election will signal a cultural paradigm shift away from entitlement and emasculation towards strength and bravado.

    #1164206

    Sparkly
    Member

    Trump is EXCELLENT for the Jews. his daughter is jewish. he works with jews. we need him. we should just vote for someone whod be good for the jews. imagine if he was president during the holocaust so many jews could have been saved.

    #1164207

    Not quite Sparkly is he was prez during the holocaust he would have benn able to show hisa true colors without the whole world screaming at him

    #1164208

    Sam2
    Participant

    So often Trump just doesn’t think. He said the NFL sent him a letter saying they thought the overlap of the debate and a game was ridiculous. Did he really think the NFL wouldn’t call him out on that? He just lies. He says whatever he wants and doesn’t care what actually happened. I don’t get it.

    #1164209

    huju
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    Thank you, mw13. Do I get any extra points for being the shortest answer?

    #1164210

    charliehall
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    I would like to know what the supposedly frum Jews are thinking when they publicly support him. There have been Presidents who have had more licentious lifestyles (Harding and Kennedy) but none who boasted about it. (The Republican National Committee actually paid hush money to one of Harding’s mistresses, one who was not the one with whom he had a child out of wedlock. They had some shame in 1920.)

    And there has never been a major party Presidential nominee who has openly incited racists and anti-Semites like Trump has. (George Wallace did this, but he was a third party candidate.)

    And there has never been a major party Presidential nominee whose foreign policy is designed to support the interests of one of America’s biggest adversaries at the expense of America’s allies. (Henry Wallace had such a policy, but he was a third party candidate. And he later admitted that he was wrong; Trump has never admitted he was wrong on anything.)

    And there has never been a candidate as offensive to women, or as insulting to those who serve our country.

    Nor ever a candidate, not even a third or fourth or fifth party candidate, who lies as brazenly and repeatedly and unapologetically. Even his wife — a model of non-tzniut dress — lied about her degree and there is no apology.

    Trump is a model of everything Orthodox Jews are supposed to avoid.

    #1164211

    charliehall
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    Not to mention that there has never been a businessman run for President who had such a long record of stiffing customers, suppliers, creditors, business partners, and even bribing officials to stop investigations of his work.

    #1164212

    or as insulting to those who serve our country.

    Can you say “benghazi”?

    #1164213

    Sparkly
    Member

    yw moderator 29 – what is a benghazi?

    #1164214

    Charliehall, everything you say is true.

    but, when the alternative is a rotzaiach a shakrin a ganev and someone who should be in jail do we really have a choice?

    To stay at home is NOT an option

    Rav Moshe feinstien said u have to vote

    #1164215

    Sparkly
    Member

    yeshiveshmacher – so im assuming your voting for Trump?

    #1164216

    charliehall
    Participant

    “Can you say “benghazi”?”

    Yes, Clinton was exonerated by multiple Republican led congressional investigations. They spent millions and could not find anything to pin on her.

    And the investigations were a waste of time and money (from the allegedly fiscally conservative party). They concluded that there was no possible military intervention that could have saved the four Americans. I had actually proven that myself shortly after the attack from publicly available sources regarding the location of US bases and military assets in the region. The closest US Army units were seven hours away by helicopter. Multiple in-flight refuelings would have been required. Our servicemen would have had to land undetected in a country whose language they did not speak and whose alphabet they do not read and find their way to the location of the Consulate (known) and the CIA compound (which they probably did not know existed and would not have been permitted to have been told about) while dodging hostile forces from all sides (pro- and anti- Libyan government). Then, they would have had to fight their way out back to a safe place for helicopters to land and take them to safety. It would have likely been a suicide mission and far more than four Americans would have died — and the rescue would have been too late. It took me less than an hour to map all this out. So yes, I can say Benghazi and Clinton did nothing wrong. The only way to have insured that there will never be an incident like this is to close every US diplomatic facility in the world that is not on a US military base.

    #1164217

    charliehall
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    “the alternative is a rotzaiach a shakrin a ganev and someone who should be in jail”

    You are guilty of motzi shem ra. Clinton has murdered nobody. Every fact-checker confirms that she is about as truthful as any politician today while Trump’s lying is at an unprecendented level. Clinton is not a thief and Trump is a robber — he has a decades long history of taking money under false and coercive pretenses. And Clinton has committed no crime so only a dictatorship like the one run by Trump’s buddy Putin would put her in jail.

    “do we really have a choice?”

    You could vote for Clinton. She is better than Trump in every thing we value as Jews. (Business fraud is described in the Torah as toeiva and Trump is a first class fraudster.)

    Or you could vote for Johnson. He is a good person who is merely wrong on policy, although not as catastrophically wrong as Trump. (Johnson won’t tank the economy with his trade and tax policies and he won’t hand over US allies to Putin even though he is a foreign policy isolationist. And Johnson doesn’t incite racists, nativists, and anti-Semites.)

    #1164218

    Sparkly
    Member

    charlie hall – i hope you heard the plan with education that clinton has and how that will destroy jewish schools. until you hear about that please DONT vote for her. you will destroy us.

    #1164219

    Health
    Participant

    Charlie -“Yes, Clinton was exonerated by multiple Republican led congressional investigations. They spent millions and could not find anything to pin on her.”

    Charlie – we had this conversation in the other topic. Do you think by posting in another one, e/o forgets? I’ll remind e/o. From Trump vs. Clinton:

    “squeak -Hillary is a hands on murderer. Whether its actively bumping off whitewater threats or taxi drivers in NY, or through negligence by ignoring impending terror threats, she has more layers of blood than skin on her hands.

    Hillary is a liar. She says whatever works in the moment, whether its defending her husband or pretending snipers attacked her. Today she says Israel is her priority, tomorrow she’s kissing Arab terrorists.

    Hillary is as corrupt and as buyable as they come, whether its selling pardons for votes or taking absurb fees for speaking from wall street companies. There is nothing she w9nt do for the right price.

    If anyone is a potential mussolini, its her. Imagine if Hitler came to power while whe was president. Do you think she would oppose him or befriend him? Only blindness or expeftation of personal gain could bring you to vote for her.”

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    Ctlawyer -“I made a statement that Trump is worse than Hillary., in the end the Marines are DOD employees, not State. That’s what I pointed out.”

    This isn’t a court of law! Trump is Not guilty of negligence that caused the death of an ambassador & other Americans!

    “It doesn’t matter if the Secy of Defense knew of the danger or not”

    It does matter – it absolves him of negligence. OTOH, it was Hillary’s responsibility to protect the embassy in Libya!”

    #1164220

    charliehall
    Participant

    ” i hope you heard the plan with education that clinton has and how that will destroy jewish schools”

    There is no plan to destroy Jewish schools.

    #1164221

    charliehall
    Participant

    “OTOH, it was Hillary’s responsibility to protect the embassy in Libya!”

    No, it wasn’t. The SoS has no military assets are all. Your yeshiva did not teach a course in American Government.

    #1164222

    charliehall
    Participant

    “Imagine if Hitler came to power while whe was president.”

    There is no Hitler today. But there is a Putin. And Trump has already intervened to force the Republican Platform to conform to Putin’s demands and announced that he will break US law and refuse to defend US allies threatened by Putin. Note that he did not exclude Israel from those he no longer would feel obligated to defend.

    #1164223

    charliehall
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    “Hillary is a liar. She says whatever works in the moment”

    All the fact-checking sites show that she is as credible as any politician today.

    Trump and his supporters, OTOH, spout lies at a rate not seen since the collapse of the Soviet Union. It may be pathological. Their latest motzi shem ra target is Ghazala Khan; they are claiming he works for the Muslim Brotherhood. There is no evidence for that.

    Do not think that Jews will not be next on his list if he will gain from them. Trump is everything Jews are taught not to be. The shocking thing is that allegedly frum Jews defend Trump, his behavior, his history, and his policies. It is a Chilul HaShem.

    #1164224

    Health
    Participant

    Charlie -“All the fact-checking sites show that she is as credible as any politician today”

    You’re right! They’re all Liars!

    “But there is a Putin”

    Too bad he isn’t here! We need a president who respects the Torah!

    Not s/o who’s extremely liberal!

    “”OTOH, it was Hillary’s responsibility to protect the embassy in Libya!”

    No, it wasn’t. The SoS has no military assets are all.”

    But that has nothing to do with responsibility!

    From Yahoo news:

    “Since the terrorist strike, investigations have detailed failures on the end of the State Department and the intelligence community, which included a Senate Intelligence Committee report in January 2014 that said both were at fault for failing to prevent the attack, according to the Washington Post. However, there was only one specific reference to Clinton throughout the report.

    “The document contains only one mention of then-Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, whom the panel’s Republicans name as the official who should ultimately be held responsible for the failures in Benghazi,” Adam Goldman and Anne Gearan wrote for the Post.”

    #1164225

    nishtdayngesheft
    Participant

    “All the fact-checking sites show that she is as credible as any politician today.”

    This is about as true as any of Hillary’s comments. Which means not.

    #1164226

    dovrosenbaum: “Master at trolling” is your criteria for a good president? Seriously?

    #1164227

    puppydogs
    Member

    “Their latest motzi shem ra target is Ghazala Khan”

    I don’t think there is Motzei Shem Ra by a Goy.

    Clinton is a serial liar: Check Benghazi, emails, Fosters Death, Health care costs, defeating ISIS, cattle futures, landing in Bosnia and the list goes on and on.

    There is a reason she is known as “Crooked Hillary”.

    Oh and BTW you can’t spell Hillary without liar

    #1164228

    dovrosenbaum
    Participant

    Trump’s agenda for America is far different from Killary’s.

    Killary wants to import more Muslims, despite the fact that they’ve destroyed Europe. Under Obama, we’ve had scores of terrorist attacks that people seem to have forgotten about: San Bernardino, Galveston, Boston, Chattanooga, Fort Hood, Orlando, Moore, OK, and so on. You don’t see Jews, Buddhists, or Catholics doing things like this, only Muslims. For Killary, being PC and a dhimmi means more than keeping us safe.

    Trump will restore sanity to our foreign policy by avoiding adventurism and ill-fated interventionism. Democracy cannot and should not be imposed upon Arabs. It has not worked and will not work.

    While Killary is busy barking like a dog, Trump will instill the fear of G-d in the nations of the world. We WILL be feared and respected again, instead of being the laughing stock of the world. Under Killary’s term as Secretary of State, the world turned to complete disarray: ISIS, Erdogan, global terrorism, and a now emboldened Iran, with greater access to nukes than ever before.

    I don’t see what’s appealing behind an agenda intended to lead us towards one world government and socialism.

    Nor should we have a family back in the White House defined by perjury, murder, lies, rape/sexual assault, thievery, supporting dictatorship in Haiti, kissing Arafat’s wife, etc.

    #1164229

    👑RebYidd23
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    Killary is fine name, but it does not belong to Hillary Clinton.

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