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  • #1889165
    AvrahamAvraham
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    We are about to get hit by a major thunderstorm.
    How about giving some guidance about what to do if 1) you lose electricity; or 2) get flooded out of your home.

    #1889220
    ☕️coffee addict
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    1) it’s a tropical storm

    We’ve had them on the past

    #1889222
    Insertwisdomhere
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    Flashlights, batteries, generator+fuel(if have one), cooler(s) filled with Ice[if power out for days, your food will spoil]
    If you get flooding in home, not much to do except get an Airbnb or a hotel motel room. Or find friends who have a home on a hill. Update your insurance policy check for flooding coverage.

    #1889238
    Sam Klein
    Participant

    Daven directly to Hashem for help and have faith and trust in Hashem. He will definitely come to your aid immediately. Vdorshei Hashem lo yachsiru…. For one that seeks out Hashem lacks nothing that is good.

    May we all stay safe in the storm and put our faith in Hashem who is the one sending this major storm

    #1889264
    Gadolhadorah
    Participant

    Grab your sharpie and a weather map and redirect the storm Brooklyn to Alabama.

    #1889511
    CTLAWYER
    Participant

    Didn’t lose electricity or get flooded, BUT
    100 year old Oak tree came down on a corner of the garage and hit trunk of car
    Limb from Silver Maple came down and took out 10 feet of pool fence and may have damaged pool liner.
    B”H everyone was inside house and safe
    Already notified insurance carriers, submitted photos and started claims process………………….

    #1889688
    Gadolhadorah
    Participant

    Do you have a drone over the compound taking pictures of the damage like the insurance company ads on TV?

    #1889898
    CTLAWYER
    Participant

    @Gadolhadorah
    No I do not have a drone over the compound. I do have a balcony outside the rear room in the attic of the main house that gives quite a view. I used the binoculars I received as a Bar Mitzvah gift more than 50 years ago for a quick survey of the damage.
    Being do it ourselfers. I took out a two story ladder to check the garage roof. Today, grandsons got busy cleaning, debris, older ones cutting thick tree limbs with chain saws. Later they will be divided with the log splitter and stacked as cord wood to season for at least a year. Having 5 fireplaces in the original 1803 part of main house, we use a lot of firewood in the winter.

    When we had solar panels installed last year, the solar company used a drone to inspect our roof. Much safer than sending a man up there to the peak.

    #1890035
    Redleg
    Participant

    Sam Klein’s post reminded me of a well-known story. I goes something like this:
    A hurricane was approaching and the police drove through a particularly vulnerable neighborhood advising the residents to evacuate. One man refused, saying that he had complete faith that G-d would protect him. The storm came and the neighborhood was indeed flooded. The man had retreated to an upstairs room when the Police came by in a boat and offered to rescue him. The man again refused saying that G-d would surely protect him. The flood waters continued to rise, driving the man to the roof of his house. A Coast Guard helicopter appeared, dropped a rope ladder and urged the man to climb the ladder into the helicopter and be saved. Once again, the man refused, again affirming his complete faith in G-d and His salvation. Finally, the wind and flood waters overcame the man and he was swept away and drowned. When the man’s neshama reaches Olam HaBah, he has taynehs! “Eibisher, I had complete Emunah in You! Why didn’t You save me?” The Rebono shel Olam replied, “What do you mean? I sent a cop, a boat and a helicopter!”

    #1890055
    Amil Zola
    Participant

    From what I’ve been reading the folks in Lkwd were not very prepared for this storm even though they had days to do so. Hopefully this will be a lesson learned. Many don’t understand that the main power outages were due to the failure of substations, not trees falling. And for what it’s worth, don’t run out and just buy a generator before learning how to use it and how to safely store fuel.

    Prepping isn’t hard to integrate into your daily life. Keep a minimum of a weeks worth of shelf stable food on hand, same with water. Remember water purification is dependent on power supply, as long as you’re buying cases of bottled water keep some on hand. Have some spare propane tanks on hand so you can cook on your gas bbq. Then there is the usual batteries and lights. Make sure there is a battery operated light for each of your rooms, stairways etc.

    #1890097
    Goldilocks
    Participant

    Amil Zola: I don’t know where you live, but here in NY we get storm watches/warnings almost every year, and 90% of the time it turns out to be an ordinary rainstorm, if even that. So yes, this storm was surprising, and most people weren’t really prepared.

    #1890141
    Amil Zola
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    Goldilocks, I grew up in NJ not far from Lkwd (still have family there). I live in Oregon in the PNW. Tomorrow is a windstorm warning day with extended gusts of over 40mph predicted. The furniture on my patio and pool area is already stored away and the generator test started. fuel levels checked.

    My father was a volunteer firefighter and emergency responder. His prepping kept us safe and comfortable in ’64 when Dora left us without power and water for a week, same with Alma, Doria. IRRC Doria left us without power for about 12 days. Foresight meant that during hurricanes and record snow falls we were fed and comfortable and in a position to help our neighbors who weren’t as well prepared. Hopefully the Lkwd community will have learned from this, it sounds as if this will be a record year for hurricanes. Good luck and stay safe.

    #1890363
    AhvasChinom
    Participant

    A Zola,
    Are the trails to Multnomah open, after the fires? Do you get up to Seward Pk occasionally? We hear that Bamboo G closed last week.

    #1890623
    Amil Zola
    Participant

    AhvasChinom I have no idea if those trails are open. I don’t venture up that way very often. You can probably google and find out. It appears our state parks are filled to the brim and out of state tourists are being surcharged so that residents have priority. This summer when I do leave my pool I tend to venture off the beaten path. I usually spend a day off in the woods every week. I take a good book and settle in near a waterfall.

    #1896421
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    Isn’t it interesting that Amil Zola and Gadol Hadorah and Charlie and the rest of the crew used to be gleeful when a hurricane hit Florida because it was Hashemite showing He hates Trump, but now that Trump changed his residency to Florida not one storm’s eye made landfall in Florida, yet 2 and possibly soon to be three hit New York?

    I think Hashem hates Cuomo and Deblasio

    #1896435
    n0mesorah
    Participant

    You people worship the sea or the wind?

    #1896449
    Gadolhadorah
    Participant

    Coffee Adict: Using your warped logic, hashem put the Dems in charge of the big cities. Its just the beginning of the storm season so make sure you get a refundable ticket if your heading to Disneyworld in the next month or two. As for being “geeful”, watch the Trumpkopf and his chevrah cheer on the violence in major cities so he can run on a tough “law and order” theme. Hopefully, if there is going to be a Category 5 hurricane, it will make landfall at Mar a Lago, and then head back out to sea, with no casualties other than that obscene golf club on the coast. Of course, you will say, the Trumpkopf can pull out his magic sharpie and reroute the storm to Havana or Alabama.
    ,

    #1896497
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    🙄

    The same blah blah mar a lago blah blah junk

    Yawn

    And it wasn’t me that started that “warped logic”

    (Clearing throat)

    #1896568
    Gadolhadorah
    Participant

    Coffee Adict: My apologies….its getting touch tracking all the warped logic that goes along with the Trumpkopf’s weather forecasting. Last night, he tried to take credit for the very few casualties and limited damage resulting from what he incorrectly characterized as one of the “most powerful Hurricanes” in American history (it didn’t even come close) blah, blah. Try taking a honey-coated cough drop (with a cup of tea and schnaps).

    #1896595
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    ?

    A category 4 hurricane (technically, it was 5 mph away from a category 5) doesn’t come close to a powerful hurricane?

    #1896638
    huju
    Participant

    Best advice: See Gadolhadorah’s first comment.

    Best comment: Redleg. And thank you for posting the story. I have posted it several times and I am tired of typing it.

    #1896663
    🍫Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    I really have a hard time with all the snarkiness, hate, passive aggressive stuff here. I thought listening to people rip each other apart over politics was better than over zionism but 4 years of it has worn me down. Then there’s those threads where people can spew hate for a president (talk about assinine things to waste your health over) and still include jabs toward jews for whatever your upbringing taught you to dislike about them.
    I’ve always been cynical, generally snarky and quick tongued, but i don’t remember ever being so filled with dislike toward people who think differently than I do.

    I beg you all to give it up. Please.

    #1896783
    Gadolhadorah
    Participant

    CA: Laura was not even within the “top 10” of the most powerful hurricanes to hit the U.S. Very fortunately, it was more of a wind and storm surge event than a wind event and the winds dropped down incredibly quickly once it made landfall. The biggest problems seem to be the electric distribution line outages in the Entergy and CLECO service areas. While any loss of life is tragic, compare with Katrina, Harvey etc. the residents of Texas and LA were very fortunate. Whats worrisome is that we’ve had several big storms in the past few years that were hyped as “monster storms” or the “biggest in history” and they turned out to be considerably less. People seem to be getting jaded to these predictions and more willing to “ride out the storm” rather than evacuating.

    #1896796
    Sam Klein
    Participant

    When is the REAL STORM going to hit klal yisroel? Coronavirus already shook and shut down THE ENTIRE WORLD directly straight from Hashem who runs the entire world.

    So when is the REAL STORM of serious pre geula teshuva going to happen to wake us all up from our dream lives of living in denial instead of doing the right thing and FACING REALITY and doing something immediately when a serious issue hits klal yisroel like non stop horrific tragedies and deaths like coronavirus with so many of them gedolei Hador R”L? How much longer will it take Hashem to wake us up from our dream lives of gashmius and pleasures to the real life and real world? To bring this down a notch to our level let me give you an example: how bad does a child who needs a little extra help in school need to get before both parents will wake themselves up and admit to themselves YES we need to wake up and FACE REALITY that our child needs some extra help in school then a regular student and we need to do something about it now when the problem is small and he’s still young cause if we wait the problem is only going to get worse and much harder to get him back on track with his classmates.

    May we all wake up and FACE REALITY very soon to the real storm of serious teshuva ASAP together as a nation

    #1896791
    Amil Zola
    Participant

    Coffee Addict, why must you lie? I’m certainly not gleeful when a destructive weather event threatens life or property.

    #1896792
    n0mesorah
    Participant

    Dear Gadol,

    This was the tenth-strongest U.S. hurricane landfall by windspeed on record.

    Storm surges are responsible for the bigger disasters.

    We have had some really major storms this decade. Many different areas were devastated by hurricanes. Houston is the only (As far as I recall.) area to be hit multiple times.

    Harvey does not compare to Katrina.

    I think more people are evacuating now than ever before. There has been an added stress on adequate shelter space. And security for vacated towns is much improved.

    #1896889
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    Amil,

    Sorry if I included you unnecessarily I tend to lump you together with the other Democrats

    But you’re correct in that I should be more careful with my words

    #1896915
    Amil Zola
    Participant

    I am a lifelong Democrat, and I will maintain you are a liar. It is a label you have earned. None of those you mentioned have reacted with ‘glee’ about this weather event.

    #1897326
    Avram in MD
    Participant

    Gadolhadorah,

    “CA: Laura was not even within the “top 10” of the most powerful hurricanes to hit the U.S.”

    I think it just made the cut, actually.

    “Very fortunately, it was more of a wind and storm surge event than a wind event and the winds dropped down incredibly quickly once it made landfall.”

    Unfortunately for the people in its path it was a serious wind and storm surge event. Hurricanes always weaken rapidly after landfall, but Hurricane Laura spread destructive winds more than 100 miles inland. And if we’re comparing Laura to Katrina, Katrina’s most devastating impacts came from storm surge and the subsequent breaking of the levees in New Orleans, not wind damage.

    “While any loss of life is tragic, compare with Katrina, Harvey etc. the residents of Texas and LA were very fortunate.”

    Not the residents of places like Cameron or Lake Charles. Just because the storm didn’t hit a highly populated area does not mean it was weak.

    “Whats worrisome is that we’ve had several big storms in the past few years that were hyped as “monster storms” or the “biggest in history” and they turned out to be considerably less.”

    Laura was a monster storm. And if you’re frequently let down by your sources of information, you should probably seek out better ones.

    “People seem to be getting jaded to these predictions and more willing to “ride out the storm” rather than evacuating.”

    I think response rates to the mandatory evacuation orders in southern Louisiana was pretty high. The local National Weather Service forecast office in Lake Charles even evacuated, and Laura’s winds shredded their doppler radar.

    #1897570
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    “None of those you mentioned have reacted with ‘glee’ about this weather event.“

    That is a technicality however there were hopeful that previous storms hitting Florida would hit mar a lago and Hashem so to speak was upset at him

    #1899056
    Y B Yerushalayim
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    Learn Torah in A zoomtorah.com Virtual Bais Medrash!

    #1899524
    n0mesorah
    Participant

    Dear Yerushalayim,

    My only mossy in a thunderstorm is, if the power would go out how would I connect to zoom Torah.

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