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I have a filter on my phone, laptop, & desktop. It costs me a few hundred dollars a year, it slows my internet down a bit, & it’s annoying to need to request access to a perfectly legitimate site. It’s still worth every dollar I pay & all the annoyance it causes. It spares me from viewing tens of thousands of inappropriate images & text that would poison my mind! The tradeoff is so worth it that I wouldn’t even consider having a device without a good filter.
I ask you, dear fellow Yid, why shouldn’t you also have the benefits of filtered internet? Why not give it a trial for Chodesh Tishrei this new year & see if it’s worth it for you? You might be pleasantly surprised by the benefits of having a pure mind again.google and AI are trainable. If you don’t look for inappropriate material, then when you do search for appropriate material, inappropriate stuff will not come up (especially, if you have filter on in google search – put that on if you did not do it yet).
what if i occasionally need youtube for work, fixing my car or other stuff?
Some people are so devoted to Torah and ruchnius that when they have to for some reason or another use the internet, they just go on to check their email or buy that item on Amazon (its not like their going to spend a half hour to choose which item is the best one) for 5 minutes from buying to paying page or to simply do some research which means they already have their search plans and then get off the internet SO THERE’S NO NEED FOR SUCH A TALMID CHACHAM BUYING ONLINE to need a filter. He has his own filter gates preventing him from seeing anything he shouldn’t be seeing by anything that EVEN TRIES to pop up not involving his Amazon buying or research etc…. to immediately X and delete the pop up page without even looking at it. He has no interest in it anyways and never asked for that pop up page.
If you be on that high level then you have no need for a filter.
Seichal is the best and only filter needed!
I’m kidding, but I’ve heard those words from someone. Apparently, his kids weren’t as smart as he was, unfortunately.
You are correct. Filters are needed. As careful as a person might be things happen without them realizing, and one thing leads to another. Part of showing Hashem how serious we are is by doing as much hishtadlus as we can. This is hishtadlus! Irrefutable hishtadlus!
you need to start with why you need internet.
If you don’t need it, don’t use it, with or without filters. This is like everything else in life. If you don’t need a boat, don’t buy it.
When you, or your family, need certain activities on internet, like learning Torah or umanut, focus on that task. I am sure if you are searching for laws of shehitah, the worst you are going to see is pictures of cut cows.
“I am sure if you are searching for laws of shehitah, the worst you are going to see is pictures of cut cows.“
Or a lady reform rabbi singing while half unclothed trying to stop a slaughterhouse
coffee > Or a lady reform rabbi singing while half unclothed trying to stop a slaughterhouse
Are you sure you didn’t consume some edibles with your coffee?
Haimy > Having a filter lowers your nisoyon to be over the lav of lo sasuru.
absolutely. First, start by changing filter options in your google search: https://www.google.com/safesearch. There is also google family link that allows to lock safesearch for your children.
There is also openDNS that allows blacklisting and whitelisting sites on the network, that can be separate for differnt computers.
So, if you have limited number of sites you need, you can just whitelist those.Because of my job I am online 12 hours a day. I do not have a filter and I do not get unwanted images popping up. If you look for them, you’ll get them If you do search words that suggest something inappropriate, you will get inappropriate images and ads that you didn’t ask for. One has to know himself and if he is tempted for inappropriate content, then filters probably are a good idea. I understand not everyone has self control but for those who do, I would think filters are optional
Haimy> Because you can always change your Google settings
right, google family link allows someone else control the settings. I think windows also have that feature and there are other products like that.
but you should start with physical controls – use internet on a computer and not phone and have either a desktop or attach a laptop in a dining room with the screen towards other people.
Stupid argument. Obviously everyone needs a filter if they have a device connected to the internet. The small exceptions only works for a short time eventually everyone will have a nisayon and you absolutely need a filter.
In a public setting like a library I can maybe see why you don’t have a filter on their computer but will be ok to use. But even there so many people will look things up. Same thing in an Apple Store or Best Buy where there is phones and laptops on display for sale. It’s very sad.
Get yourself a filter Hashem will pay you back for that little cost every year to show that you care and want to be holier and clean.
haimy > every time you go shopping online, there will be photos of inappropriately dressed women displayed.
1. there are adblocks for browsers that filter out ads
2. ads are usually tuned to your history of browsing, search, and clicks on ads. It is unfair in a sense that if you did it once or some time ago, the ads will be pursuing you for some time until it becomes clear you are not buying it. Aveira goreret aveirah.lakewood > In a public setting like a library
you can have a public setting at home – have a screen facing the rest of the family or your friends or even a window open to public domain.
For me firstly my work has its own filter for security and I can’t add more filters since it’d not my computer and I don’t have admin rights . It’s a “goyish” filter. Second on my personal devices I’d love to get a filter but can’t afford a few hundred dollars for my devices. It’s easy to say it’s only a few hundred till you have to pay for it. I have suggested on this forum before that TAG distribute free filters. It’s a tzedaka officially. Bikkur Cholom not only provides food but gives it free of charge . It’s 2025 where people throw out $1m on a simchas b shoeuva like it’s nothing and TAG can’t raise that money? Meanwhile what should I do when I can’t pay my bills ?
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What happened when it’s 2 am and no one else is up in your house and you know the code to your desktop and turn the volume low or off to just see what you don’t want to see (including what you want to see at that moment but not what you want to see not at that moment but you want to see and want to not want to see these things)
GET A FILTER!
lakewood > What happened when it’s 2 am and no one else is up in your house
this is not a problem in my house! If it is in yours, just wait until your kids are teens.
the simple solution is time-based controls. And give your spouse/parents/children teamviewer access – that is have them logged into your computer remotely. If you are worrying about night shift, have also a shomer in EY or in China.
There are also tools that do random snapshots of the screen (or you can program this capability yourself), making them available to your shomer/shomeret.
chaim > second on my personal devices I’d love to get a filter but can’t afford a few hundred dollars for my devices
if you limit yourself to a computer and sell “devices” (note the shoresh – “vices”!) and stop paying their monthly fees – you can then afford paying for the filter. Oh, wait, you will not even need them! even more left for tzedokah. Make that first donation in my name.
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My last post to you. You are wasting everyone’s time. You can’t afford a filter so don’t buy a device. They have devices that are cheaper which can equal the same price that your current device has. Even the one you are hiding in your room.
Getting teamviewer isn’t a solution as people don’t want to be your watch guard all day and it never works and can be blocked etc.
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