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    All of our Tzaros are supposed to disappear when Moshoiach comes, do you think we’ll still have to sleep in the succah?

    #819030

    2scents
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    Is it considered a tzar? If yes you might have some issues with the kashrus of your sukah.

    #819031

    HaLeiVi
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    Not only us. It seems from the first day’s Haftora that even the Goyim will have to keep Succos.

    #819032

    Dr. Seuss
    Member

    The goyim will kick their Succah down in anger, when Moshiach comes, due to their tzar of going there in inclimate weather.

    #819033

    Jothar
    Member

    It’s a machlokes between the Rambam and Ramban what happens when moshiach comes. We’ll be in Eretz Yisroel, which is a much more suitable climate for sukkah sleeping.

    #819034

    GumBall
    Member

    Let me correct something here!! ITS NOT A TZAR TO SLEEP IN THE SUKKAH!! HASHEM TOLD US TO KEEP THIS YOM TOV TO REMEMBER HOW HE PROTECTED US WITH THE ANANAI HAKAVOD!! their is nothing bad about sleeping in sukkah!! dont make it like its bad!! its so much fun!!

    #819035

    BaalHabooze
    Participant

    Moshiach? i heard he’s supposed to come this year

    what was it again?

    Tehey

    Shnas

    ….anyone?

    #819036

    HaLeiVi
    Participant

    Dr. Suess, that is initially, to show them why they are not us. After that, they will be Mechuyav to come and celebrate Succos.

    Jothar, what Machlokess?

    #819037

    a sheep without a spleen- it may be a tzaar for you, but imagine the reward you will be getting! l’fum tzaara agra.

    and may i ask you where you picked up such a name as “a sheep without a spleen”

    #819038

    Jothar
    Member

    Haleivi, this is a famous machlokes about what olam haba is, can we die after moshiach comes, etc.

    #819039

    Jothar, what Machlokess?

    Maybe the machlokes whether in ymos moshiah there will be a shinui hatevah. The Rambam holds that the only difference will be shibud malchiyos and all the nevuos are to be read allegorically.

    #819040

    Jothar
    Member

    DHM, yes. According to the Ramban techiyas hameisim means we will live forever, and olam haba will be here. According to the Rambam there will still be death, and olam haba is in shomayim.

    #819041

    Abelleh
    Participant

    Who says all our tzaros will go away?

    #819042

    YW Moderator-42
    Moderator

    a sheep without a spleen- it may be a tzaar for you, but imagine the reward you will be getting! l’fum tzaara agra.

    l’fum tzara agra doesn’t really apply here. By sukka, if you are in tzar then you are completely pattur from sukka, it’s not even a chumra to go in the sukka anyway (except perhaps the first night). One who does sleep in the sukka despite the tzar is not called a tzadik but rather an am haaretz.

    #819043

    interesting. i didn’t think of that.

    #819044

    interesting. i didn’t think of that.

    Good, because it’s irrelevant. You’re only pattur if it’s something you couldn’t have avoided. I could have installed a heater in my succah. And a bed ( not made of pine). And a timer to turn the light off on yom tov. And a fridge with beer. But I didn’t so though I cry through the night , I am chayiv.

    #819045

    Sam2
    Participant

    HaLeivi: The Goyim will never be obligated in more than just the 7 Mitzvos B’nei Noach.

    #819046

    real-brisker
    Member

    Well if you find it to be tzar to sleep in it , you don’t need mashiach to come to pa’ter you from sleeping in it.

    #819047

    HaLeiVi
    Participant

    Sam2, did you read the Haftora?

    #819048

    ILThinker
    Member

    The Torah is Nitzchi,how could the coming of mosiach prevent us this everlasting mitzvah? And from a theological perspective, how could the coming of moshiach which is good, and is one of the ultimate wishes of am yisrael, supposedly “relinquish” us of the mitzvot? If this is true h’v, then the mitzvot are some kind of low worship. This cannot be true. As it is said by the Rambam z”l,ein Ben yemot… Bilvad. We will continue fulfilling the mitzvot eternally.

    #819049

    Sam2
    Participant

    HaLeiVi: It’s pretty clear in the Gemaros at the beginning of Avodah Zarah. (Actually, more that just that is clear.)

    #819050

    adorable
    Participant

    do you really think its that bad? I dont think its meant to be fun but its nice and amazing to think that there are so many jews sleeping on their porches because thousands of years ago your great grandfathers were protected with clouds! and you can move a bed into the sukka its no big deal. why dont you try that? my father has one in the sukkah!

    #819051

    adorable
    Participant

    anyone watched/heard the new song by Lipa on the Hasc 24 dvd/cd? he talks about whats going to be when moshiach comes. its amazing. sent chills up and down my spine.

    #819052

    yitayningwut
    Participant

    Sam2-

    Lav davka. They’ll probably all be megayer, we just won’t except their geirus. So they’ll hold they are mechuyav but we won’t, and there will be two camps of Jews, ergo ??? ??? ????? ??? ????? ?????…

    #819053

    klach
    Member

    we are unable to comprehend any of the chazals that deal with mashiach as more than concepts – ie we hava no conception of what these things will look like when they are manifest.

    #819054

    and you can move a bed into the sukka its no big deal. why dont you try that?

    Why don’t you and see if it’s funny. If it is you can come move mine in (and out at 3 in the morning when it rains, don’t worry, I’ll wake you)

    #819055

    When Moshiach comes, the wolf will live with the lamb, and the sheep will have a spleen.

    #819056

    Toi
    Participant

    and those who sing and dance all day now wont be there to see him.

    #819057

    rasha gamur
    Member

    The rambam says that there will be no fndemental change to the world in the times of moshiach

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