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October 17, 2011 9:02 pm at 9:02 pm #600003A Sheep without a SpleenMember
All of our Tzaros are supposed to disappear when Moshoiach comes, do you think we’ll still have to sleep in the succah?
October 18, 2011 3:07 am at 3:07 am #8190302scentsParticipantIs it considered a tzar? If yes you might have some issues with the kashrus of your sukah.
October 18, 2011 7:27 am at 7:27 am #819031HaLeiViParticipantNot only us. It seems from the first day’s Haftora that even the Goyim will have to keep Succos.
October 18, 2011 1:22 pm at 1:22 pm #819032Dr. SeussMemberThe goyim will kick their Succah down in anger, when Moshiach comes, due to their tzar of going there in inclimate weather.
October 18, 2011 1:29 pm at 1:29 pm #819033JotharMemberIt’s a machlokes between the Rambam and Ramban what happens when moshiach comes. We’ll be in Eretz Yisroel, which is a much more suitable climate for sukkah sleeping.
October 18, 2011 3:12 pm at 3:12 pm #819034GumBallMemberLet me correct something here!! ITS NOT A TZAR TO SLEEP IN THE SUKKAH!! HASHEM TOLD US TO KEEP THIS YOM TOV TO REMEMBER HOW HE PROTECTED US WITH THE ANANAI HAKAVOD!! their is nothing bad about sleeping in sukkah!! dont make it like its bad!! its so much fun!!
October 18, 2011 3:41 pm at 3:41 pm #819035BaalHaboozeParticipantMoshiach? i heard he’s supposed to come this year
what was it again?
Tehey
Shnas
….anyone?
October 18, 2011 4:06 pm at 4:06 pm #819036HaLeiViParticipantDr. Suess, that is initially, to show them why they are not us. After that, they will be Mechuyav to come and celebrate Succos.
Jothar, what Machlokess?
October 18, 2011 4:26 pm at 4:26 pm #819037yummy cupcakeMembera sheep without a spleen- it may be a tzaar for you, but imagine the reward you will be getting! l’fum tzaara agra.
and may i ask you where you picked up such a name as “a sheep without a spleen”
October 18, 2011 6:34 pm at 6:34 pm #819038JotharMemberHaleivi, this is a famous machlokes about what olam haba is, can we die after moshiach comes, etc.
October 18, 2011 6:34 pm at 6:34 pm #819039Derech HaMelechMemberJothar, what Machlokess?
Maybe the machlokes whether in ymos moshiah there will be a shinui hatevah. The Rambam holds that the only difference will be shibud malchiyos and all the nevuos are to be read allegorically.
October 19, 2011 1:29 am at 1:29 am #819040JotharMemberDHM, yes. According to the Ramban techiyas hameisim means we will live forever, and olam haba will be here. According to the Rambam there will still be death, and olam haba is in shomayim.
October 19, 2011 3:09 am at 3:09 am #819041AbellehParticipantWho says all our tzaros will go away?
October 19, 2011 4:11 am at 4:11 am #819042YW Moderator-42Moderatora sheep without a spleen- it may be a tzaar for you, but imagine the reward you will be getting! l’fum tzaara agra.
l’fum tzara agra doesn’t really apply here. By sukka, if you are in tzar then you are completely pattur from sukka, it’s not even a chumra to go in the sukka anyway (except perhaps the first night). One who does sleep in the sukka despite the tzar is not called a tzadik but rather an am haaretz.
October 19, 2011 4:23 am at 4:23 am #819043yummy cupcakeMemberinteresting. i didn’t think of that.
October 19, 2011 4:29 am at 4:29 am #819044A Sheep without a SpleenMemberinteresting. i didn’t think of that.
Good, because it’s irrelevant. You’re only pattur if it’s something you couldn’t have avoided. I could have installed a heater in my succah. And a bed ( not made of pine). And a timer to turn the light off on yom tov. And a fridge with beer. But I didn’t so though I cry through the night , I am chayiv.
October 19, 2011 4:52 am at 4:52 am #819045Sam2ParticipantHaLeivi: The Goyim will never be obligated in more than just the 7 Mitzvos B’nei Noach.
October 19, 2011 5:03 am at 5:03 am #819046real-briskerMemberWell if you find it to be tzar to sleep in it , you don’t need mashiach to come to pa’ter you from sleeping in it.
October 19, 2011 7:23 am at 7:23 am #819047HaLeiViParticipantSam2, did you read the Haftora?
October 19, 2011 10:56 am at 10:56 am #819048ILThinkerMemberThe Torah is Nitzchi,how could the coming of mosiach prevent us this everlasting mitzvah? And from a theological perspective, how could the coming of moshiach which is good, and is one of the ultimate wishes of am yisrael, supposedly “relinquish” us of the mitzvot? If this is true h’v, then the mitzvot are some kind of low worship. This cannot be true. As it is said by the Rambam z”l,ein Ben yemot… Bilvad. We will continue fulfilling the mitzvot eternally.
October 19, 2011 12:00 pm at 12:00 pm #819049Sam2ParticipantHaLeiVi: It’s pretty clear in the Gemaros at the beginning of Avodah Zarah. (Actually, more that just that is clear.)
October 19, 2011 4:09 pm at 4:09 pm #819050adorableParticipantdo you really think its that bad? I dont think its meant to be fun but its nice and amazing to think that there are so many jews sleeping on their porches because thousands of years ago your great grandfathers were protected with clouds! and you can move a bed into the sukka its no big deal. why dont you try that? my father has one in the sukkah!
October 19, 2011 4:15 pm at 4:15 pm #819051adorableParticipantanyone watched/heard the new song by Lipa on the Hasc 24 dvd/cd? he talks about whats going to be when moshiach comes. its amazing. sent chills up and down my spine.
October 19, 2011 4:36 pm at 4:36 pm #819052yitayningwutParticipantSam2-
Lav davka. They’ll probably all be megayer, we just won’t except their geirus. So they’ll hold they are mechuyav but we won’t, and there will be two camps of Jews, ergo ??? ??? ????? ??? ????? ?????…
October 19, 2011 4:43 pm at 4:43 pm #819053klachMemberwe are unable to comprehend any of the chazals that deal with mashiach as more than concepts – ie we hava no conception of what these things will look like when they are manifest.
October 19, 2011 8:13 pm at 8:13 pm #819054A Sheep without a SpleenMemberand you can move a bed into the sukka its no big deal. why dont you try that?
Why don’t you and see if it’s funny. If it is you can come move mine in (and out at 3 in the morning when it rains, don’t worry, I’ll wake you)
October 19, 2011 8:26 pm at 8:26 pm #819055oyveykidsthesedaysParticipantWhen Moshiach comes, the wolf will live with the lamb, and the sheep will have a spleen.
October 22, 2011 6:40 pm at 6:40 pm #819056ToiParticipantand those who sing and dance all day now wont be there to see him.
October 23, 2011 1:25 am at 1:25 am #819057rasha gamurMemberThe rambam says that there will be no fndemental change to the world in the times of moshiach
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